Sort-of memes that are cracking you up at the moment

a tiny eeny weeny proportion

For the purpose of the lexicographical argument, it doesn't actually matter how many as long as it's not all of them. Given that there really is a silent majority, it seems at least possible that the number of leave voters primarily motivated by ends for which exit would not be the means might be the minority.

Kinda frames the majority Brexits as something they are not (rational). It’s dishonest.
If it were honest there would have been coherent arguments from the Brexit camp.

A lot didn't want Eastern Europeans and now they are less of them so it worked for those voters.

frames the majority Brexits as something they are not (rational)

You may not agree with them, but having different values from yours doesn't make them irrational. There are sensible and respectable arguments for leave just as there are for remain. Both campaigns deliberately lied about what was achievable and about what the inevitable costs of their positions were, because the contest was to gain votes, not to win an award for honesty. They both told big lies, because in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

Does that count as a Godwinning?

Nah, I think to Godwin you have to characterise only one side of an argument as being like the author of that passage. It's just being appropriate to the memes thread by reproducing an old idea in a new context.

There are sensible and respectable arguments for leave just as there are for remain.

Please name some to demonstrate your honesty.
It would demonstrate the rational argument for leaving too.

Sort-of memes that are cracking you up at the moment >>>>>>>>>

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Just weak

I like Paddington, the other was trolling

name some to demonstrate your honesty

You and I have internalised the process of the debate, we know the means and are going to engage in them. If you're asking in good faith for my opinion, please don't say you can't understand it just because our values differ. To put it another way, inside we both know what's been going on, we know the game and we're going to play it, and if you ask me how I'm feeling don't tell me you're too blind to see

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from Twitter

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Have any 5th Floor people graced these pages? I seem to recall they were part of some IRL dust up with someone? Might be misremembering that. Just hard to believe that a group that came out of fixed gears in 2009 (according to their website) doesn't have quite a big crossover with this gaff.

I do seem to remember a meet up in a multi-storey car park way back...

Some of them did. They ended up being shouty over some imagined beef over something and flounced.

Are you thinking of the old Tricksy Dicks? That car park is loooooong gone.

they were part of some IRL dust up with someone?

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/184935

I do seem to remember a meet up in a multi-storey car park way back...

Is that not Dogging?

Dogging?

As an originalist, I think that should be confined to those car parks adjacent to popular dog-walking areas such as woods and parks. Maybe some radicals are going multi-storey, but I'm old enough to have come to the conclusion that such things are always greater in the expectation than the experience.

Reading all this made me cringe, at the same thing realised just how far people have grown from thst times.

That or become Amey.

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Passive aggressive.

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