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  • If we wanted a warmer tent, like a 4-season thing that isn't stupid heavy where would you look?

    I used Terra Novas in N. Wales and Scotland during the 1980s and 1990s, including winter. Their Voyager might suit your needs. These days I use Hillebergs as they are faster to pitch and lighter, but I do miss the quiet of the taught inner-pitching-first designs of the Terra Novas.

    MLD make larger pyramid designs that are rated as 4-season; their Supermid with inner is light and would have reasonable space for 2 people. It could also be used in warmer months with just the outer and a Tyvek floor. There is also the Nigor Wickiup 3.

    Forget single-skin designs for winter, it is too damp in the UK for these designs to function without dreadful condensation. Plus they are colder as they lack the layer of air trapped between the inner and outer tents. I have a Hilleberg Rajd and I would only use it in dryer climates/periods of the years. Some folks have been experimenting with Lightwave Sigma single-skin tents and their 'breathable' X-tex fabric. This material uses activated carbon in the coating to reduce the formation of droplets and improve breathability, but under certain conditions it is reported to get very damp and take a long time to dry out.

  • Thanks I'll have a look into the stuff you mentioned.

    This sounded promising re: the X-Tex stuff: https://microcosm.app/out/XbPzi

  • https://hilleberg.com/eng/tent/yellow-label-tents/helags-2/#link_detailsLink

    This does look kinda neat. We grabbed a bin bag from a hotel we camped next to to keep the wet outer away from the inner. With this Helags you can leave the outer up and pack the inner - you might be able to do this with our one but I think most of the lines are joined inner/outer and there's hardly any vestibule space anyway so you'd be getting wet.
    The Hillebergs are all at least double the weight but they do seem to be built for much harsher conditions compared to our "3 season" tent.
    Pitching looks quite a bit slower than the Big Agnes with the 3x poles to insert and tension and lines to peg and tension before it's "up".

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