Lightweight tent recommendations?

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  • sorry for being harsh

    Oh worry not

  • Couple of cm per stake I guess. 8 x 2cm. Maybe another couple of cm for the two extra side pull lines. So, if you have ~20cm of this stuff that could be put to use. How much you need for it?

  • Will you even be able to knot 2cm? Those MSR are 7cm.

  • I'm very dexterous. That's why I was such a hit with the girls behind the bike shed.

    More would be better, you're right though. Depends how much @adroit has and how thick it is (too thick and it'll be a pain to tie).

  • No way, you'll want at least 15cm per stake. I'd go for 20cm, a knot in 4mm paracord will take about 10cm of cord. This is what 17cm of 4mm paracord gives you. Hardly enough to put my pinky finger through, and I'd wager I'm about half Hippy's weight.


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  • I don't need it to pull the stakes out.

    I'm just going to tie it around the stake to see it so I don't trip over the little bastards.

  • You're still not going to be able to tie a knot in 10cm of paracord, let alone 2cm. If you won't be pulling on them you could fuse the ends together with a lighter, but you'd still want at least 5cm for that.

    Depends how much adroit has and how thick it is (too thick and it'll be a pain to tie).

    His link lists 4mm diameter.

  • I guess I was picturing thinner stuff. Now I want 2cm of 4mm cord to see if I could still tie it :)

  • You saved me the trouble of explaining that. Ta.
    I do have some thin stuff too. 2 mm. Trouble with it is that it doesn’t glow very well. It’s just about ok for the guy lines (and which is what I use it for).
    The 5 mm stuff I use for things I want to find in the tent in the dark. Pulling out the fibres in the core let’s you knot it in shorter lengths but you’d still want 6 inches to make a knotted loop.

  • Edit, ignore sold.

  • Love my zpacks altaplex, but when it's cold and windy its not suitable as I can't pitch it to keep drafts out.

    Anyone know an alternative that'll do me into more 4 season use? Ie -10 C at 3000m and windy.

  • MLD Duomid or the knockoff version by HMG
    Hilleberg Aktu

  • I've got an ultamid 2. Haven't been that high in it, but you can pitch it almost flush to the ground depending on pole length. Might work but can be a pain to find a suitable pitch due to the massive footprint.

    Using a bivi in the tent an option to keep wind off? Something like an mld superlight, not waterproof on it's own but would add some protection.

  • Got an mld event bivy. Tbh its not sleeping as my phd bag is windproof and comes over my head. But when I wake up and want to enjoy a morning coffee I can't.

    I'll look at your suggestions thanks both

    I'll keep using zpacks for now. I am thinking of ski touring this winter and so if that takes off then getting a real 4 season would be prudent.

  • Actually that duomid looks ideal.

  • MLD Duomid or the knockoff version by HMG

    Hilleberg Aktu

    Another vote for the Hilleberg Akto, if not using trekking poles. In four-season pyramid tents the Duomid with a suitable inner looks good, as does the Nigor Wickiup 3 used with a lighter Hex Peak V4 solo inner, then there is also the Hyperlite Mountain Gear UltaMid 2 (which is pricey, being made from Dyneema fabric).

  • Yeah I am torn on dyneema. My zpacks is dyneema and it is good, but expensive. I don't think it warrents the cost to save 100g. It's also very fragile to cuts and does require a little extra care.

    Plus the groundsheet is useless is saturated ground.

  • The glow in the dark stuff from https://www.lfgss.com/comments/16190359/ didn't seem to glow in the dark. I guess when you set your tent up in Scotland, in the dark, you're not going to get much sunlight on them to charge them up. Oh well. Still made pulling the poles easier but I wouldn't bother with them again.

  • I feel like this has become the de facto generic camping thread (sorry if it's not) so I'm gonna ask here. I'm going car camping to New Mexico and it's pretty high up and very cold in some of the places I intend to stay. Some of the peaks I intend to hike up to is at 4013m. Forecast has some of the places at -6 overnight.

    I have a -7c bag and 4.3R pad, thermals, down jacket with me etc, so I shouldn't be getting cold. Hopefully. Oh and when I say car camping I mean I am going to be sleeping in my car.

    Was hoping someone may be able to glance over my pack list and tell me if there's anything I might be missing (I have checked online lists but always good to hear from other people):

    Camp stove + some very minimal cooking stuff for porridge + snacks for hiking + coffee stuff (will be eating out for dinner)
    Camp chair
    Pillow
    Bug nets to allow me to leave window open slightly for ventilation
    Privacy screens
    Hiking poles
    Backpack
    Water bladder
    Weather Appropriate clothing and shoes
    Garmin inReach
    Lanterns, torch and headlamp + spare batteries
    Camera
    Sea to summit 'wilderness wash' + wipes
    Towel
    AllTrails + Gaia maps on iPhone
    Anker battery + charging cables
    Airpods

    Anything I might be missing that seems really obvious?

  • Buff or something else to cover eyes when sleeping (although your screens might be good enough)?

    Check that your stove and its fuel is ok at altitude? I don't know anything about this other than 'it's a thing I noticed people mentioning' when I was looking into stoves.

    Silk liner for bag?

  • When its cold i like to sleep with a buff over my face so I'm not breathing cold air, or as cold.

  • There’s a sun protective hat on appropriate clothing list?

  • I hope i'm not overstepping, but, I would take a paper copy of your map, I think you can print out off that set up. Id do that so you have a back up if you drop your phone, or it dies because its cold etc. I always carry a compass in my first aid kit too.

    Also at that altitude if something bad does happen I would carry a space blanket when going lightweight, or an emergency shelter on full pack days.

    I've never camped in a car, let us know how it goes.
    I loved New Mexico when I visited as a teenager, we had a massive RV for the family and it was brilliant.

  • I assumed the Garmin thing was backup nav. I normally have 3 electronic nav devices with me and never paper but I guess it depends how remote you go. Walking is probably more conducive to using paper maps than cycling.

    Yeah, I've carried a space blanket on a few things now. Never needed it thankfully but it could help if you drown all your warm kit by falling in a stream or something.

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