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Anyone come across muc off wet or urban and the ensuing nightmare that it makes?
In pretty sure it's used veg oil, varnish and pva glue. As that's what your drive chain will look like after, muc off cleaner won't touch it, akin to trying to wash an oil based gloss paint brush off with tap water.
Only mek/xylene/other horrendous chemicals takes it off.