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  • Therefore the overall goal is to get to ~85kg of mainly lean mass - with whatever body fat % I got down to last time I forwent my morning toast.

    What BF% do you think will be sustainable for you with a relatively clean but not super rigid diet?

  • What BF% do you think will be sustainable for you with a relatively clean but not super rigid diet?

    I think I'm in the middle of finding that out tbh. You (by which I mean I) would need to be super-motivated to keep a very low bodyfat percentage, as it takes significant mental discipline to get there, which I find is only really available to me if there's a goal to hit.

    I should really do a bit of a cut, drop down to 76kg (where I'd be at a very low%) then push up again, but I like toast and marmalade a bit too much.

  • When I was super motivated in my mid 20s (about 10 years ago) I managed to get to 9% BF / 82kgs, i'm 185cms. Absolute best shape of my life but couldn't stay there for very long, it was just utterly miserable. Was much happier and probably healthier overall when I took most of the restrictions out of my diet, put on a couple of kgs and hovered between 13-15%.

    Only reason I got into single digits was because I was doing a bit of boxing at the time, not getting your head caved in is a great motivator! Once that was over I just didn't see the point of trying to stay that lean.

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