That Starmer fella...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58718835

And yet here we are, both Labour and Kier Starmer are beating Corbyn in terms of voting intention polls. I agree that they aren't capitalising quickly enough and that they are a long way from being electable, but I disagree that its all doom and gloom.

He's not wrong

That's the point though - to be a long way from electable against this shower of venal, incompetent fuckers is appalling. Get a bit closer to an election and Johnson will do his jolly schtick and we'll get another 5 years of this.

That's the point though - to be a long way from electable against this shower of venal, incompetent fuckers is appalling. Get a bit closer to an election and Johnson will do his jolly schtick and we'll get another 5 years of this.

Interestingly, if you aggregate bookmakers odds on the next election, the odds of another Tory majority have dropped by about 12% in the last year.

I appreciate that I'm grasping at straws here, but I don't get the abandon all hope PoV. Starmer became leader of the opposition during a pandemic and is missing opportunities to capitalise on that for sure, but theres a long way to go.

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You want https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Compass

Wes Streeting is a fucking ballbag but I like what he was saying about education today.

This? https://labourlist.org/2021/09/the-cost-of-child-poverty-wes-streetings-labour-conference-speech/?amp&__twitter_impression=true

Enjoyed it

It's a shame Keir is so dull. He's got nice hair but the charisma deficit is just hopeless. Not electable, unless he can get a swagger/gravitas transplant from Ken Clarke.

Thought he was alright on C4 tonight, hopefully he brings some of that zeal tomorrow

I know this has already been posted but doing it again as it's so important.

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It is mentioned twice that Ken Loach is a film director:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/28/democracy-keir-starmer-labour-left-ken-loach

No ones told him that with a divided party, he’s ain’t winning shit, then?

Starmer speech highlight:

My dad was a tool maker. Although in a way so was Boris Johnson's.

Ha! Did he say that? All is forgiven, bloody lad.

im sure the civility pearl clutchers will be along in short order. you can't say mean things about Johnson!

He followed it up with a sort of compliment towards Johnson...saying that he didn't think he was a bad person, just "a showman with nothing left to show".

ugh. way to waste a perfectly good sckbrn, starmer, you fucking coward.

if johnson isn't what he considers a bad person i shudder to think who else qualifies.

Earning his money with this speech, how long?

Typical lawyer - charge by the minute... ;)

if johnson isn't what he considers a bad person i shudder to think who else qualifies.

The left.

Tbf the hall seem to be lapping him up, multiple standing ovations and continuous applause

Interesting take

https://novaramedia.com/2021/09/29/keir-starmer-is-just-as-dishonest-as-boris-johnson/

I think that speech was actually a masterpiece considering the circumstances. It'll provide some good clips for the news and Twitter. The heckling from the Corbyn lot kind of amplified the messaging too.