Cargo Bikes

You can configure here:

https://www.r-m.de/en-gb/bikes/packster-70/

Fully Charged will ask you to configure and then get the reference code from the R&M website. They can then give you the GBP price.

so UA is cheaper and narrower so you wont have to do anything special at the moment to store.

whats in stock?

whats in stock?

That's what I'm going to find out hopefully on Saturday

in stock > anything else IMO

Thanks. Cover etc seems to come as standard on the R&M website so have sent Fully Charged the code to see if they can give me a price.

Agreed. But if it's 4 weeks for a Packster I really want, then that gives me time to build a shed.

Mine's outside. Under a cover.
I am constantly thinking : I need a new shed

4 weeks is nothing for R&M! I thought it would be like months.

Yeah, wishful thinking on my part. If it's months, then OTP it is I reckon. I doubt I'll be able to go too far wrong really. Just agonising over details, as usual.

exciting! take damo and carry him back in the cargo

I am not a smol child. I am a teenage size.

I need to properly test the cargo area capacity, so taking mini_com over on the train.

I think Fully Charged only have the higher specs in stock. Lead time quoted on an order was early 2022.

Damn, I was too slow

IME go for what is in stock. Fully Charged have been somewhat 'fluid' in their estimation for how long my Gocycle would be (albeit lots of that down to Gocycle as well). Have had to give them some strong advice about managing customer expectations. 4+ months and still bikeless for me.

Gocycle

still bikeless

I believe @lowbrows has one he could sell you

Would say that is true of everywhere since C19 began, and worse since the B word. They are managing your expectation by basically saying nothing firm, I don't count a bike/item arrived until its literally in my hands.

If we were in 2017-2019, and shops were giving you vague estimates is because 1) the estimate is genuinely vague as cargo bike mftr's are a niche of a niche and stuff happens when its possible to happen 2) the shop doesn't value your sale/maybe thinks you aren't super interested. It used to be for us, every 10 active inquiries would result in 8.5 to 9 sales, yes, that high. But since the ebike boom (~2019) that has now dropped to around 2-3 sales made on 10 inquires, maybe lower, margins are lower so unfortunately I (and others) cannot put as much time into these until they become a deposit down kind of a deal. At that point we'll bend over backwards for the CX.
Since C19 and B have occured/still are occurring, all bets are off, the bike will turn up when it turns up (to our border), then add 5 days to 10 weeks onto that (to clear UK customs)= when it might actually turn up*
*And even then, correctly labelled, correctly physical + electronic paper worked imports get turned back by our own customs agents for reasons known only to themselves. Then repeat process. It is incredibly hard work, most shops are good at shielding the CX from those stresses, but inevitably they have to be told of the realities of it all.

Long story short, if something you like is in stock and you want it (don't stress yourself into a £5k purchase, there will be other bikes), put a holding deposit down to show you are actually serious to the supplier, then go home and have a cup of tea, consult your SO and the people of the internet and then take it from there. Then ring supplier and make them aware of your decision. Sounds mental I have to spell this out to people but have had it both ways recently (where CX was as vague as hell, but actually wanted a £6k bike ASAP and thought they would only communicate this through telepathy, vs, CX was very very adamant they wanted something, ordered it without deposit because they were so firm and so keen, then turns out 'never said that mate').

for sale stratford cash converters

i think it's £130 ish

£130!
Absolute Steal....

so stolen then…

yeah more than likely

probably get it even cheaper as it's been there a while

Thanks for this, very valuable insight.

Narrow or not you need a bit of sweepback with ergo grips.

I agree with this, though I think they were originally designed for MTB.
Talking about Ergons here, I shouldn’t assume.

Thanks again to everyone for their insights. Current plan is as follows. Go to Fully Charged for the test ride on Saturday and have a go with mini_com. If I am enamoured by anything in stock or with a shortish lead time (explain that I would pay a deposit in short order so they understand I'm not tyre kicking) then I will go for that. I don't think I can go too far wrong at that level. If they have nothing, go to Pure Electric then London Green.

The Packster would be great, but if it's just not available, then what's the point. I think I would be very happy with the UA and by the time I add the Cargo Line motor and some accessories, it should be high enough spec to be in stock/attractive to make the sale happen. If it does by any miracle happen to be the Packster, then I would have to accelerate some kind of out front storage. Which actually wouldn't be ideal, as we will hopefully be looking to have the front garden re-done next year so it would have to come apart etc.

Every trip I take in the car now that could have been by cargo bike is actually making me sad. Nursery drop off this morning (4 miles away) and three bags of shopping on the way home. Would have been PERFECT!

Also, I've not ridden a bike since mine was stolen from the old flat a year ago.

Every trip I take in the car now that could have been by cargo bike is actually making me sad. Nursery drop off this morning (4 miles away) and three bags of shopping on the way home. Would have been PERFECT!

Also, I've not ridden a bike since mine was stolen from the old flat a year ago.

BUY ASAP