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  • So you find scrolling OK? Seemed like a faff to me, but never got used to it. I thought of getting the Garmin remote so I could do it from the hoods or wherever.

    Your Sony sounds exceptional. I have two waterproof phones - Samsung and a Chinese rugged one - and both will start to play up when the screen gets really wet. Need to turn them off and just switch on for quick glimpses before junctions, etc.

    I have a separate app for intervals (or TT if I ever do one). It has a lap button and has data fields in different colours so easy to read. For TT just need a couple of numbers as don't want to have too much to think about.

  • Have you got Di2? I swipe with the top hood buttons and it's nice to not have to let go of my handlebars.
    I really like my Karoo. Fast, good screen, good maps, responsive. And when it rains I lock the screen. Haven't got the classic "what about a downpour" scenario yet. And I'm not sure about charging in the rain.

  • Yes, I've got di2. Hood top buttons = Garmin remotes?

    I probably should try karoo. Just for completeness, I suppose. What puts me off is all the millions of features which I don't want. All I want is a Garmin 705 with a bit better screen and which is a bit more robust!
    705 is robust on normal rides,just sometimes crashes after a few days.

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