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Agree. If I never did multi-day rides I would just stick to phone. It's a bit shit in the rain but workable, and a plastic bag could make it better if I was going to do a long wet ride, which I hardly ever do nowadays anyway. And hard to adjust back to Garmin once you've got used to phone-quality mapping.
With 1030 what do you do about data fields? On 705 I can have map + 4 data fields and never have to scroll screens. But 1030 doesn't do that. I tried the app to get more data fields and it didn't have the right ones plus it kept having to be reloaded.
What do you do - just don't want / need the data fields, or is it ok to keep scrolling once you're used to it?
frank9755-
My Sony was put into use when the 1000 got wet in the storm in Montenegro. So, I think if you have a waterproof phone you're probably at least as good as Garmin.
I have a map screen w/ 2 fields, elevation screen w/ 2 fields and normally two data screens with maybe 7 fields each on them and just flick through them. If I'm racing a TT, I turn off elevation screen and turn on a screen with 3 fields on it (so the numbers are bigger and easier to read when I'm tucking).
hippy
I still use my 103o. Like most Garmins I've had, I'm well aware of the issues each has and have various workarounds for them. I still carry Edge 1030 and use that the most, w/ phone as a backup and etrex as a 3rd backup most of the time.
For Badlands I fired up the etrex more often to double check the route when it was confusing. So for MTB stuff I'm likely to start using etrex as the main unit (especially since I have no powermeter).
As usual, I'm tempted to buy the 1030 Plus and the 1030 could go on another bike or be a spare. But for the money, they're not really worth it unless you're doing huge rides and might be rerouting. For normal people doing 4-6hr long rides I think I'd be using phone or a smaller Garmin.