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  • Interesting. The shit refresh rate is the main reason I've kept on using a phone app and kept the Garmin in a drawer with the plastic screen protector still on it! Last time I used it was over a year ago and I missed a turn on a descent as the map hadn't updated until I passed it.

    I thought the 1030 was the gold standard in Garmins but clearly it's not in this respect. I didn't do enough research. Phone app is great for anything other than really heavy rain but uses too much power for ultras (if I ever get to ride one again). So maybe I'll get rid of 1030 and get another Garmin. Or, TBH, what might be easier is to fire up one of my old 705s to use as backup for the phone app when it is wet or I'm low on battery power. Or maybe an eTrex would be better backup as the 705s were getting cranky when I stopped using them two years ago...

    Does eTrex allow you to follow a route with North at the top - not direction of travel?
    But the 705 does power so really it is still better. Why can't Garmin make anything better than the one I bought in 2009!

  • I still use my 103o. Like most Garmins I've had, I'm well aware of the issues each has and have various workarounds for them. I still carry Edge 1030 and use that the most, w/ phone as a backup and etrex as a 3rd backup most of the time.

    For Badlands I fired up the etrex more often to double check the route when it was confusing. So for MTB stuff I'm likely to start using etrex as the main unit (especially since I have no powermeter).

    As usual, I'm tempted to buy the 1030 Plus and the 1030 could go on another bike or be a spare. But for the money, they're not really worth it unless you're doing huge rides and might be rerouting. For normal people doing 4-6hr long rides I think I'd be using phone or a smaller Garmin.

  • Agree. If I never did multi-day rides I would just stick to phone. It's a bit shit in the rain but workable, and a plastic bag could make it better if I was going to do a long wet ride, which I hardly ever do nowadays anyway. And hard to adjust back to Garmin once you've got used to phone-quality mapping.

    With 1030 what do you do about data fields? On 705 I can have map + 4 data fields and never have to scroll screens. But 1030 doesn't do that. I tried the app to get more data fields and it didn't have the right ones plus it kept having to be reloaded.

    What do you do - just don't want / need the data fields, or is it ok to keep scrolling once you're used to it?

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