Overheard at the LFGSS golf club bar

Time to take my £200k out of Vanguard?

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Very Soon Everyone's Leaving

As this is the Golf Club Thread......I will never forgive the admin person who booked me on a Ryanair flight where the dimensions for hand luggage are so small I had to pay extra for my tablet negating most of the saving.
In my company EVPs and above travel in one of our fleet of private jets from our own airport.

Ryanair travel is never gonna be golf club but I also take issue with them. The baggage allowance used to be much larger and having to pay extra for an overhead cabin bag is a bit much. That plus tests cost more than my flights. Don't think I'll be using them again.

However, I did manage to bring a notebook, which makes me wonder how big you tablet is. My hand luggage was a messenger bag which comfortably fits my 15" laptop.

Where do you work?

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Switzerland is a dull, dull place.

Disagree. It's stuck in my head as one of the most amazing places I've ever been.

Yes, that was due me coming from flat, desert to INSANE mountains and nothing to do with the people or culture, but still. I still remember waking up there (we'd arrived at night from Heidelberg) and looking out the window over a lake near Lucerne I think. Proper jaw dropping moment.

It was also during the 2005 floods so there was some massive devastation. Boulders the size of houses had smashed bridges to bits, etc.

Club pro levels of detachment regarding privilege of air travel to represent your company. Thread needs recalibration.

It’s incredibly beautiful. But it is also incredibly dull.

You can spot the Swiss people going home at 3 am, as they are the ones waiting for the green man before they cross the (empty) road.

Agree. The novelty of flight for me last a couple of trips. I hate it now and the Covid shit makes it worse. I would much rather take trains if at all possible/practical.

Maybe that's why I liked it later on too - no shitheads stepping in front of me while I rode through? :)

I'm also pretty good at making my own fun. I fear that I may be quickly arrested in Switz for it though.

I find it amazing that companies are still flying people around in 2021.

It's like printers - why the fuck haven't we fixed this yet? Digital signing has been a thing for years. Get over the paper thing ffs.

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Switzerland is the bimbo of Europe...

Haha I'm ok with that - everything else in my life is function > form so getting some eyeballs filled with high mountains now and then gives me back a bit of the 'this world is amazing'.
The Tetons in the USA did that for me too.

Because the client wants to see you face to face, and if you don’t accommodate them then they tend to gravitate towards doing business with companies who will. It’s that simple, sadly.

Yeah it's a reason but it's still a shit reason.

Same shit as "we always print these forms in triplicate" why? "because we always have"

FYI: your thread is definitely golf club material. Who is clever enough to be flown overseas for work but can't work out the Covid travel requirements so asks on a bike forum? :D

I'll just go back to my poo shovel research now...

Thing is, technology may have evolved but people haven't. Our logical and rational software runs on an OS that's basically emotional.

I don't travel often but when I do get to go and spend a week with people and go through stuff together in person, eat with them once or twice, maybe go out for drinks together, it changes everything about how we work together afterwards and that lasts for the rest of the time we work together.

I can see we (humans) might have to say "Nope, can't do that anymore and that's that" but it's not a no cost switch.

(But you are so right about the printers.)

I'll just go back to my poo shovel research now...

Pretty sure there's a thread for that...

PS Couldn't log in to Remote Desktop on my Mac this morning, Chris in Mildura fixed me up... 🥰 Gotta love outsourced IT departments...

Yes, that was due me coming from flat, desert to INSANE mountains and nothing to do with the people or culture, but still.

Swiss culture and community is fantastic if you're part of it. Energetic, friendly, kind. It takes a while to make friends and immerse yourself in it though. Not easy to do as an occasional business visitor or tourist.

I'm biased after spending at least a month a year there for coming up to 20 years so clearly my experience is not representative of the average tourist.

Its also a culture with deep flaws too. Swiss culture is deeply complex and quite unique compared to other European nations. You hear people say the Swiss are racist a lot. In the same way that you hear other Europeans call the English racist too now days. There is a nuanced truth to that, but not in the way that the lazy stereotypes imply.

A good way to describe Swiss attitude towards life is to be deadly serious for 90% of the time and then totally lose your shit for the remaining 10%. A Swiss, in celebration mode, is a force to be reckoned with.

but people haven't

Some people haven't. Other people see waste, pointless tasks, stupidity and try to change it.

Even pre-covid I would try to avoid work travel. It was almost always pointless and could've been conducted remotely (or with fewer people traveling - strength in numbers sales bullshit)

Mildura Crew reprezent! :D

I don't travel often but when I do get to go and spend a week with people and go through stuff together in person, eat with them once or twice, maybe go out for drinks together, it changes everything about how we work together afterwards and that lasts for the rest of the time we work together.

Yep, this ^.

Plus - not everyone is just signing paperwork. Being able to phiysically go over a product together in the same place is much more efficient than trying to do it over a call and has longer term communication benefits.