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Sam Seder's show on youtube gets the big brained libertarians calling in quite frequently and every time they start with some kind of statement or greivence like "I don't believe the govt should control who can drive" then it goes down a path of "how do you stop someone harming you with no recourse?" to them admitting they want a bit of oversight but only locally, "how do you define what's local and what's to stop another group just turning up and claiming they're now in charge" to them admitting there should be some kind larger oversight and then basically inventing national government but refusing to admit it.
Apparently there is some debate... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcllE7fx8-I