• Sadly I don’t think there’s a magical silver dialectical bullet for this. Arguments to and fro only seem to serve to inflame tensions, leaving no one on the opposite side convinced nor better informed. Terms like human rights are thrown about (mainly by trolls) without any actual mention of precise legal precepts nor jurisprudence.

    PS- ‘just asking questions’ is troll speech 101. I do think the human rights issue is worth exploring, because involuntary medical procedures MIGHT -can’t emphasise this enough- 1) break human rights laws, and 2) if they’re not surgically legally crafted they might set precedents that can be misapplied in the future. However, a lack of a magical answer here shouldn’t bolster the arguments against the popularly held views.

  • So my questions are worth exploring but I’m trolling.

    I genuinely believed this place was for discussion not to be shot down and name called. Guess I see why a long standing decent member completely deleted recently.

    But I guess the human rights in questions are freedom to life, not to be excluded from anything because of your freedom of choices and freedom to choice, the choice to be vaccinated or not.

    Again freedom of life as mentioned elsewhere works for both sides of the fence on passports, I’m entitled to not be killed by your choices and I’m entitled to a life whilst I also choose my fate.

  • I genuinely believed this place was for discussion not to be shot down and name called.

    Pull the other one.

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