Orient Express - Cheap Chinese Rims / Wheels / Forks / Frames / Cranks / Etc

A seller on aliexpress has told me the "volume weight" of some bars. It's slightly less than the "product weight". Translation courtesy of Chrome. Anyone know what "volume weight" means?

maybe this?

https://parcelbroker.co.uk/help/what-is-volumetric-weight-volume-calculator/#:~:text=Volumetric%20weight%20refers%20to%20the,use%20a%20divisor%20of%204000).

I wondered about that, but the shipping is free. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003081371093.html

The message says 'Product weight: 192.50 Volume weight: 176' The weight at this price seem improbable. But the supplier also makes carbon brakes for Ted Ciamillo, so maybe they're one of the good ones?

Hopefully there is some room for negotiation there and whoever processes the order perhaps quote the previous order from earlier in the year.

Ted Ciamillo

Group buy of knock off niche carbon rim brakes then?

Maybe! I've ordered some. They're on the way! My reading of the situation is that they're not knock offs. They're the real Lekki8. https://www.roadbikereview.com/threads/ciamillo-lekki-8-brakes-review.381565/ Ted's cashflow has collapsed and he can't buy from his supplier any more. So they're ditching their stock. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003081042664.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.5d054c4dSgZxPP

Another possible scenario is that these are the dodgy ones. There have been some snappings of the carbon arms. Maybe this is the disgruntled former supplier and Ted has hooked up with someone better, and the new improved Lekki8 will soon be flying off the shelves. Anyone who has dealt with Ted would say that the likelihood of this is about one in eleventy thousand.

Ive sent light an email as Im after 26" DH rims and nothing they have seems to be totally DH. Will report back once i heard as I want to take advantage of the order.

Thanks all for the input, and @Saffronspokes for the lesson learned. I emailed LB with what was on the spreadsheet as of this afternoon at 1pm, explicitly asking for the 30% discount, threatening you'll all pull out if they don't (sort of). Will report back on response.

I would like to arbitrarily set end of the day this Sunday as deadline for people preliminary commitment, to create a separate group and eventually place the order by Friday next week. If anyone has got any strong opinion against that, please voice it now.

My mate is out, but looks like you got well past the 30 mark.
Hope you still get the 30% discount!

Fine with me

Few points back from LB:

1. The 30% discount is for the pro rims only. See attached.
   
   

​2. I found that the Order ID# 03-AR465 rim is with matte finish and Order ID#09-WR38 rims are with satin finish, these clearcoat will add 20g roughly to the rim, is that okay with you?

1. For the Order ID#09 -WR38 with Hope RS4 hubs, what spoke do you prefer?
   
   

Can I have this info amended by the relevant people please?

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where on their website does it say they can build wheels with rs4 hubs?

where on their website does it say they can build wheels with rs4 hubs?

https://www.lightbicycle.com/newsletter/Light-Bicycle-Bike-Hub-List-of-2020.html

thanks. will update accordingly! just hope it doesn't delay the order for everyone?

Just changed my XC925 to both standard (not flyweight) on the spreadsheet. Hope thats ok.

Updated spreadsheet with my details, cheers! Confirmation by sun is good for me

Sorry to add confusion but when I asked LB in the middle of last week they told me that they had no RS4 rear hubs in stock only Pro4, @giofox did they comment on this when you sent the preliminary order spreadsheet? Also any clarification on whether the cost of wheel builds will be discounted beyond the 30% applied to the rims?

Not to be "that guy" but the spreadsheet has your names, postcodes and email addresses on it. In the interest of data security you might think about closing the sheet relatively shortly and moving the convo to PM. Or someone could be the gatekeeper and send the link via PM?

I know you need to gather a good amount for the bulk order, but sadly I do data protection as part of my job and the spreadsheet gave me the heebeejeebies.

Also any clarification on whether the cost of wheel builds will be discounted beyond the 30% applied to the rims?

If you open the image in a new tab, it's a bit easier to read:
https://lfgss.microcosm.app/api/v1/files/9291d786c84127bba807dded6b835d48a94d5530.png

I'm not sure what NA regions are but UK falls into Global - looking at 15% for a PRO built wheelset.

edit: North America!

i was also thinking this... happy to have the spreadsheet made private fairly swiftly or remove certain aspects like name and postcode

RS4 rear hubs in stock only Pro4

if this is the case then I would cancel the "wheelbuild" part of my order and stick to the rims only. will add as a note

Pro4 do sound better though

Yes to this, my bad, I prepared the spreadsheed ahead of the next stage of ordering, but it would be best to hide that information until the conversation moves to a closed circle

What @spinnnout said about the discounts, all above.
Re RS4 they did comment as above, only asking re spokes, so I think they might do it?

heavier and no centrelock tho