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There is no backup if the passport link does not work, despite years of pressure we aren't getting a biometric card.
I'm not convinced a biometric card is the answer. In lots of parts of the world you have an official residence and have to register with the local town hall so there is actually a list of who lives in the country (independent of citizenship etc). We don't have anything like that in the UK, if we did it would be fairly easy to establish things like this.
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A biometric card is harder to forge than an email I suppose?
EU citizens with EUSS face the problem that many employers and landlords don't recognize or accept the email...which is all we get. (You get a share code for them but it's digital only)
Some people get hassle at the border, that reduced after a big row with the EU a few month back.
Of course you are right a register is often better (might have issues too?), and that would have avoided many issues with EUSS as well.
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A biometric card needs renewal and employers/landlords don't have the equipment or skills to verify the card or read any biometric bit. The share code seems much more sensible for non-real time needs like those. Getting rid of the paper counterpart to driving licences and switching to an online system was sensible IMHO and where checks are needed we should have more like that.
The problem is treating 'people from not round here' differently. Loads of people are up in arms at the idea of a central database of UK citizens but seem happy for non-citizens to be tracked all over the place. We should have a single system for all people in the country.
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My partner applied under the EUSS scheme, and received an email in October 2019 saying she had received Limited Leave in the UK for 5 years. The online evidence to prove her status states that 'in due course' the online checking service will be available to landlords.
The email also had a letter attached explaining the decision and so on, which says "If you do not currently hold a biometric residence permit, you should receive your biometric residence card 2ithin seven working days". She never received a card, and asked me about a card last week; to be honest, I had not noticed what the letter said about this. Are you saying that the government decided not to issue biometric cards?
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Which can be a problem if you live in country A and want to visit B where you are a citizen but haven't been for decades and so don't have a current passport.
It took me ages to find my British passport earlier this year when I thought I may have to go to the UK in an emergency (didn't need to in the end). I'd just lobbed it in a box about 8 years ago and forgotten it as I've never needed it as I travel on my other one. Prior to that I used to travel with both and never had trouble at immigration even if they could see both. Nobody out to illegally enter a country shows two passports to immigration unless they're idiots.
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@jellybaby Think, in my case, was to make sure the same details were on both passports.
You can have multiple same contry valid passports, especially travelling in to some countries when have immigration stamps from others.
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Problem is that nobody is used to digital systems so even though the share code seems sensible to you many don't trust it!
So people don't get jobs. They rushed it through, they should have done a 10 years phased change from cards to digital.
And yes, registration for all please. But I disagree with mandatory IDs. Give everyone a free basic one with strong data protection laws.
Last time ID cards came up they went a bit...mad :)
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I'm pleased you got in but why would immigration accept an email on your phone as evidence of anything? That could easily be forged or does it have some sort of signed qr code?
Proving your settled status involves logging into the government web-site. The e-mail states clearly that it's not evidence of settled status. I've got a print-out of it, anyway, for the same reason as what happened to hesa: That there may be an IT glitch at the border (where they try to check my settled status on-line) and I can use it as a document, even if it doesn't actually have evidential status, because they may not apply the check rigorously in the event of said glitch. Like all such systems, it'll probably take a while to bed in.
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TL:Dr UK leaving EU medicine regulations thanks to years of blinkered idiocy makes required checks too much hassle so some companies wont supply NI next year.
And no we can't get everything yet via ROI.
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Back to the truckers... More or less on R4 have looked at the 100k shortfall number (link below)..
60k pre existing shortfall (dodgy methodology from the truckers org)
20k less new truckers
20k less EU national truckers -
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-58461991
UK unilaterally extended grace periods on checks...there we go again.
That oven ready Brexit is for a microwave that's not even ordered yet :)
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Back to the truckers... More or less on R4 have looked at the 100k shortfall number (link below)..
60k pre existing shortfall (dodgy methodology from the truckers org)
20k less new truckers
20k less EU national truckersAnd add in the loss of cabotage, which effectively removes far more truckers from our roads.
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I read that first as ‘cabbage’, which threw me.
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It took me straight here:
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'There will be some untreated sewage' on the side of a red bus. -
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There is no backup if the passport link does not work, despite years of pressure we aren't getting a biometric card.