EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

Are imports from China affected by anything Brexit related?

Seeing as it's generally fucked our customs and border process, yes. Move on.

Not really.

I've just received a parcel from the US with no sign of any customs checks. It wouldn't surprise me at all if UK customs are under the cosh at the moment, and this means non-EU imports are also being waved through.

I don't think so and I don't really know

Might depend on the courier. DHL were happy to charge me VAT and an £11 handling fee.

I feel like we've met in real life, are you always like this?

I don't think we've met in real life. Are you always like this?

I'm not sure why you're attacking me?

I'm not sure why you're having a go at jellybaby either. Life is pretty fucking mysterious, ain't it.

I made a post I'm agreement with something Dammit said. Jelly then basically said I was wrong which frankly doesn't make sense. It's a simple thread to follow.

Jelly then basically said I was wrong which frankly doesn't make sense.

Jellybaby said nothing of the sort. See above. Read it again. Try again.

Read that the haulage industry want hgv drivers classed as essential and skilled labour so they can import cheap labour from Eastern Europe. They’ll try anything to get around paying drivers a good wage.

To be fair, paying drivers more isn’t going to fix the problems we have for the foreseeable future. They can’t train 100,000 school leavers to drive a truck by Christmas to sort the problem out.

Drivers wages are going up by the sound of it but that’s just moving the problems around the industry with bin lorry drivers leaving to go and drive for Sainsbury’s etc.

But generally fuck the road haulage association for paying shit wages and going out of there way to make our roads more dangerous.

I don't even know why I'm engaging when you just seem to be on some mission to argue.

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/16148305/

To be fair, paying drivers more isn’t going to fix the problems we have for the foreseeable future.

Yes, short term solution it not ideas but long term solution mean more people would be interested in being a drivers despite terrible conditions.

I genuinely thought you two were doing the old lufguss reach around.

Yes, short term solution it not ideas but long term solution mean more people would be interested in being a drivers despite terrible conditions.

But it’s not just drivers, there’s a 15% vacancy rate across all industries with hotspots in food production, hospitality, farming, it’s not like just raising salaries across-the-board it’s going to help on its own there needs to be a more liberal immigration policy.

Is Brexit stoking further division on lufguss, or are left-wing, post-modern, radical Marxists to blame?

Find out today at 5pm.

Just remove universal credit- problem solved.

I blame Gramsci and the bbc

You joke, but I’m intrigued as to what effect it would have, theoretically speaking obviously….

IDK, you’d hope rioting, but we seem so quiescent as a populace we’d probably just wring our hands and starve on the street.

I think raising salaries would help massively. It’s no coincidence that the labour shortage is in industries with shit pay. There’s no shortage of lawyers for example, unfortunately .

But that wouldn't solve the problem - because there's four weeks for the medical, three weeks for your provisional licence to come back, then four weeks of training, book the test, wait another four weeks etc etc.

Which is why Tesco is offering a bonus of £1,000 to entice drivers - they don't want to train new ones, they want to take (say) refuse truck drivers from the local council right now, and then pay them the same rate as before.

The other element to consider is that you need to either pay for the three months it takes to "make" an HGV driver, or offer pay that is attractive enough that the wannabe driver takes that on themselves - and median pay is what, £11.90/hour right now? How high do you need to make that for someone to jump through all the hoops - £20, 25? And then who takes that loss - the Supermarkets are not going to want to, so that puts it on the logistics company who are already on (per the article) very thin margins.

Yes, pay needs to go up and yes, conditions need to improve - but none of this is going to fix it at once.

Not really as I've had customs charges for things I've bought from Germany.

Yarp, right now all (ground based) freight that comes in from Europe, and that comes through Europe to get to us here is being given a "paper-based" inspection, by people in clearance centres. Which means the lorry itself is waved through - basically on the honour system, customs and excise trusting that if the paperwork says "150 washing machines" then that's what is in there. You have been charged for your goods from Germany because the paperwork said you should be - but if the person shipping the goods had put something else on the paperwork you'd have paid that, as there are no checks (as long as it wasn't air-freighted).

Come October the 1st we are (apparently, many don't believe it will happen) going to start opening trucks and having a look, to see whether they genuinely do have 150 washing machines in the back, and checking whether sausages are made from Percy Pig rather than Henry Horse.