• I was trying to be subtle but that was clearly lost - the reach on a surly is as long / longer than road race bikes known for having particularly long reach geometry; advising someone to size up generally isn’t sensible with a bike, regardless, as you can always make a smaller frame ‘bigger’ with longer stem/stack/post etc but you cannot make a bigger frame smaller.

    Especially one that already has a longer reach than most bikes.

  • Pop by the shop and have a sit on it and then tell me you think.

    Its short.

    I must recall all the surlys I’ve sold over the years then.

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