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  • thoughts on touring this route? looks hard.

  • It looks like a pretty slapdash route, loads of long tarmac stretches and misses out on some real lovely off-road biking. Much better ones to tour on

  • i got this impression. I might just do a bunch of small touring off-road routes. got any good suggesstions? UK based. as much OR as poss.

  • For balance, I really liked the tarmac parts and they were a good reprieve from the unpaved sections; Bwlch y groes was a real highlight. I did think the section from the Welsh border to the Peaks was really boring though, could definitely improve that. Doing it all off-road would be great but doing it in 1 tour would be huge!

  • Agreed there is some better stuff for general touring.

    However, I think with a racing route there has to be some level of accessibility for riders of different abilities, especially with the format of the race, which is why there are some bits some may consider boring, long sections of road etc

  • In fairness the route was a couple of years in the planning. Too much for one person so the likes of Liam Glen and Katherine Moore (and me!) helped recce some of it.

    Not sure what the intended split for road/dirt was at the start of planning but as @Nikk says, some of the road sections provide a bit of relief or they have to strike a balance in terms of progress and time. Others are pretty special in themselves.

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