Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Supposedly yeah - I checked this is a CS person over emails beforehand.

"my product i used for 3 years which covers the only contact point between me and the bike other shoes, has worn out"

but i can relate, lycra is a terrible material to have long lasting clothing from, i certainly like to keep my clothing more than 3 years! a nice set of cotton (ventile if you'd like some water resistance) shorts which can be easily repaired and re-used is much better for the climate conscious.

seriously, 3 years! how can you possibly hold a company to that sort of standard. I don't think I've ever even had a pair of jeans last more than 3 years before going at the crotch, and they're literally made of denim.

£85 is not much for a pair of bibs and £55 is an utter bargain.

Isn't this really about number of wears and distance? If I had a pair of bibs and used them three times for short journeys over a couple of years, I'd be pissed if they were worn out. But, if I wore them 50km every other day for a year, I'd be chuffed they lasted that long.

Customer Service aren't to know that though. If I'd barely worn them and they'd worn out and it was 3 years later, I'd think "bit too late to complain by now"

There is no women's version of the Core Cargo Bib Shorts. There is a Core Bib Shorts, a Core Cargo Shorts, and a Cargo Bib Shorts. What gives?

Because there isn't much money to be rinsed from MAWILS

Probably because it won't fit on the product description line, god forbid if there's a lightweight thermal gore-tex long brevet version on the way.

mine went at 2 years old and i was told to expect that... absolute tosh (yes, tosh!)

they weren't worn exclusively for 2 years, only in the warmer months, and even then i have other bibs (rapha ones i hasten to add) that i roatate the usage of, so maybe worn them for twice a week for 8 months in total... it's not great, is it?

i got a £35 voucher

if every set of bibs wore out at the same rate i'd be more understanding... but no, only the core cargo bibs did

At this point I don't recognize the existence of pocketless bibs, they need to sort it out

Ha, I should have known my post would be divisive!

For me, one of Rapha's main differentiators is that they will replace or repair your kit when needed. That's the reason I bought the shorts. To think that I then wouldn't make use of that guarantee when needed is an interesting perspective. I agree that 85 quid for 3 years of bib short is absolutely acceptable. However, when nothing else is wrong with the short other than the single see-through panel, I also think it's acceptable for me to make full use of their guarantee and ask for a repair or replacement.

I wouldn't have asked for anything if the shorts were Castelli, for example. Equally, though, I've many cheaper pairs of bibs from other brands outlast these ones, so I don't agree with those saying that expecting that sort of life is unreasonable.

For me, one of Rapha's main differentiators is that they will replace or repair your kit when needed.

Like ‘bottomless coffee’

But more ‘bottomless bibs’

with exposed bottoms

which panel was see through? I don't think I've had this issue but maybe I'm not looking in the right place

In my case it is the left side panel. This is a photo from June, when I contacted Rapha. Used the bibs quite a bit since then and it got a lot worse in those few months.

I got a first generation of the core bib short and it lasted around 6 months before going see through. It has been relegated to turbo duties

Anyone have a pair of Attacus bib shorts? Just wondering how the sizing compares to Rapha pro team bibs.

https://attacus.cc/collections/mens-bottoms/products/mens-black-foundation-bib-shorts

I wondered the same about why the men's trail shorts have 4 pockets and some waist adjustment, and the women's have 2 pockets and a wide elastic at the waist with no adjustment.

This post didn't get the credit it deserved. I just wanted to commemorate and put in a potential nomination for the Lfgss hall of fame.

Anyone tried the “trail cargo bib liner shorts”?

https://www.rapha.cc/gb/en/shop/mens-trail-cargo-bib-liner-shorts/product/TLB01XXBLK#

@umop3pisdn

They are 'fine'. Not pro team spec shorts obviously, but the pockets work well under a baggy top.

Pro Team Training Bibs, my favourite bibs for fit and comfort....literally coming apart at the seams. Bought in February and on rotation with 3 other bibs so far from excessive use.

If they are sent in for repair....will it just happen again or do they make the effort to actively prevent the problem?

My understanding is that these days the repair service only applies if the item in question is damaged in "an accident". If it just wears out then tough.

I spoke to customer service live chat and she pointed me in the repair direction.

First ask if they can warranty-replace them, as they're less than 12 months old.