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  • like lance? ;)

  • Right, makes sense. Seems like she's guilty as sin, then.

  • I'm pretty cynical about the whole doping thing, tbh. While sports science may have improved over the last 20 years - and I'm aware that the current generation of early twenty-somethings are the first to grow up working with power data - we're now consistently seeing times on a par with the EPO free-for-all days.

    On the Compton front, she's been/was dominant for such a long time in the US, I wouldn't be assuming that someone who has now failed a test was always previously clean...

  • yeah, of course. if you get caught once there's no reason to assume any of it's clean but I always find these things so bleak. to get to the point where doping (in particular steroids) seems like the right idea is indicative of a mind state that seems desperate and very sad to me.

  • The CIR test seems to be an absolute gold standard for the presence of doping products so then your only defence is an explanation of how it came to be there and she couldn't do that, or you challenge the process and the custody/security of samples etc. and sounds like she couldn't afford to do that either.

  • On the Compton front, she's been/was dominant for such a long time in the US, I wouldn't be assuming that someone who has now failed a test was always previously clean...

    I always find it dubious when someone over 40 is still competing at the front of the field, it might sound petty but there's good precdent from Horner onwards.

  • Whereas 38 is fine.

  • 40 is the beginning of the end

  • While sports science may have improved over the last 20 years - and I'm aware that the current generation of early twenty-somethings are the first to grow up working with power data - we're now consistently seeing times on a par with the EPO free-for-all days.

    Times for what, exactly?

  • Times for what, exactly?

    Richmond Park 3 lap challenge

  • CJ Ujah suspended after positive test…
    That’s 1 less medal for Team GB from Tokyo2020 and he’s got to face the other sprinters at some point…

  • Wasn't steroids by any chance, was it?

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  • Never heard of S-23 but after a little read up it sounds fucking horrendous for side effects so it better make you go quick. Turns out despite not being approved by the FDA in any country Ostarine is in loads of iffy supplements and you can just buy it cheap on the Internet even over here which is pretty depressing. Sounds like the new Stanozolol.

  • Fuck me, just went down a bit of a google rabbit hole reading about that shit and it is indeed depressing.

    Loads of supplements sold with warnings that basically they'll fuck up your liver, prostate, blood pressure etc unless you take other stuff alongside them.

  • I did the same last night a quick Google ended up nearly 3 hours. I even found a uk site selling an SARM based stack named triple threat comprising of Ostarine, Cardarine and Rad-140. For power, endurance and recovery. A bit more digging revealed another triple threat of Liver disease, Cancer and Brain damage which sounds less appealing. It seems like a lot of the suspensions for these types of drugs come in waves before moving on like loads of positive tests for Caradine after Beijing. The scariest thing is that anyone can just buy this poison much of it having had no human trials easily and cheaply on the Internet and just take as much of it as they want doing so much potential damage. At least you'd expect serious or pro athletes to be more careful about their dosage and on/off cycles and have blood work and other regular health checks to minimise these massive potential risks. A hopefully small minority of elite athletes cheating is obviously bad but there has to be many thousands of informed users on this shit doing huge damage without any idea or even caring. Having googled it last night I'm getting loads of pop up ads this morning for Predator nutrition who sell these types of drugs so it's just a couple of clicks away for those who want it. At least back in the day you had to know a guy or two like one with the drugs another with a moped to hook you up now now its easier to order than your groceries from Sainsburys. Maybe I'm more shocked and surprised than i should be but i think this is terrifying.

  • At least one of the sites I looked at was pretty blatant about the side effects.

    Sure a lot of people still don’t care though.

    I was quite surprised Rich Piana’s company still exists and clearly hasn’t needed any rebranding to continue selling the stuff that basically killed the guy!

  • Rich Piana i think his followers gloss over the fact thats what killed him. A top tip from a bodybuilding forum is to buy the banned stuff because that means its stronger therefore better and take double the recommended dosage for double the gains. Ok Doctor meat head i can't query that logic.

  • Given the bio passport flagging and the positive test on reanalysis of the sample it seems certain that there was exogenous testosterone in her system, as her own statement acknowledges. I don't think she should be judged on what her husband posts on Facebook.

    The question is how it got there. It seems unlikely to me that she was a career long doper who suddenly got their levels wrong in a way that would show up as a passport irregularity. I think either it was a case of entering her system inadvertently or her using it at career end for whatever reason (a desire to remain competitive?) Who knows.

  • I don't think she should be judged on what her husband posts on Facebook.

    Unless he went rogue, I can’t imagine she didn’t know he was posting and was okay with it.

    Whether she doped her entire career or just in the closing stages is pretty much irrelevant; she’s been caught so it puts an asterisk after the results for her whole career.

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