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I think some of this is solved by trades breaking quotes into labour vs parts - I've had some very silly quotes through for different work and it's hard to work out if they're pricing themselves out or if I'm asking for an expensive thing.
Best people I've had in have been up front about their day rate and given an estimate of how long it will take and a ballpark for parts - even if it's verbal only before a written quote which encompasses the whole lot.
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The problem is the price doesn’t really include just your day rate for say plus material. It includes say it breakdowns the manufacturer wants you the customer to call the installer first. I’m not going to get paid via the visit, it might be something stupid, it might not be but that’s also built into the price.
Breaking down a full quote is far too much effort and you price the full job as the job when you start going into full quotes it’s. Well I’ve only quoted you for one length of pipe and I’ve ended up using 5 etc etc if that makes sense.
Day rates make more sense when your say on a longer term project instead of a full price I think but even then people can take the piss and lengthen them out. I mean most joiners day rate is start at 10 and finish at 3 with a lunch. That’s no a fuckin day
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up front about their day rate and given an estimate of how long it will take and a ballpark for parts
This is my preference. But I get that it's not always possible.
My OH is very big on getting a fixed quote. I CBA to go into it, but it's very much a personality thing and part of the way they operate in all things.
My best mate has a building company positioned at the higher end of the market, and I've done a bit of labouring over the years. So while I've only got a rough gauge of this stuff I do get the business angle. When you're in a currently undersupplied market, that is very at risk of economic swings and cash flow sensitive why wouldn't you go for the most profitable jobs?
konastab01
hugo7
Totally but people value factor is very warped i think. People think £1800 is expensive for a boiler but will not think twice about going out and spending £200 on a saturday night or £500 a month on a motor.
Its very weird out there right now, but it is what it is and rn im at the stage as is my old man if we get the job great if not who gives a fuck.