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Also more people will be double vaccinated, and more people will have some form of natural immunity post-infection, and infection is not a measure of severity... The report itself said the results weren't worrying.
Fair. I'm still worried about whatever the next variant is though. Antibodies, whether from vax or infection don't last that long. Covid19 has kept the mutations of concern coming so far. How do things look if in the Autumn we are looking at Epsilon (or whatever the next one will be) and the vaccines are only 35% or 40% effective...
I don't mean to be a doom monger, just feels like the widespread mood that the pandemic is nearing it's end might be misplaced. And maybe that mood might make things worse.
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just feels like the widespread mood that the pandemic is nearing it's end might be misplaced. And maybe that mood might make things worse.
I feel the same, don't think it is doom mongering IMO. Seems less mask wearing and hand sanitising.
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I don't mean to be a doom monger, just feels like the widespread mood that the pandemic is nearing it's end might be misplaced.
I don't get that vibe (that's it's over). What I do get it more people doing things they used to do as if they are normal. But that's because we are able to and we may actually be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. We need to remain careful, but we don't need to hide at the moment (sorry, Mick - hope you're able to feel more comfortable soon!).
This is worth a read imho: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/07/prof-francois-balloux-the-pandemic-has-created-a-market-for-gloom-and-doom
Key points (from my perspective) wrt your comment "How do things look if in the Autumn we are looking at Epsilon (or whatever the next one will be) and the vaccines are only 35% or 40% effective...":
Another concern is a mutation that enables the virus to “escape” the vaccines…
Over two million viral samples have been sequenced, and we’ve probably already seen all the mutations that are technically possible. From our observations, we know that vaccine escape will not appear after one or two mutations – it will require an accumulation giving rise to the right combination. We will not go from one day everyone being protected to everyone being vulnerable the next. We will have time to update the vaccines.
Also, while a vaccine-escape variant would indeed be able to infect vaccinated people far more easily, it would not nullify the protection against severe disease and death provided by the vaccine and prior infection.
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Antibodies, whether from vax or infection don't last that long.
I have just had another positive antibody test through the Zoe thing.
I had it in March '20 (by symptoms), confirmed antibodies in October (home test) and January (blood sent off). Been fully jabbed since end of May.Unless I have had an extra asymptomatic second infection that I'm completely unaware of, which I'm pretty sure I haven't, i am now at 18months worth of antibodies.
In other news, just got back from a festival. Was pretty odd being around that many people. Still - I'm sure the torrential rain will have washed away the covid.
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Also more people will be double vaccinated, and more people will have some form of natural immunity post-infection, and infection is not a measure of severity... The report itself said the results weren't worrying.