Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

It's so hard and who pays for the analysis?

It may have changed, but I know someone who worked with a major multinational retailer about 7-10yrs ago to ensure all their cotton came from reputable sources.

Iirc the best they could do was guarantee 60%, as tracing was so hard to do.

who pays for the analysis?

Exactly this. We hardly expect the same crowd who decided to cook the books to "greenwash" their diesels to pay for research that may show that it's better (for the environment) to keep your old car than buy a new one.

Though equally, the people spreading shite about EVs are usually wanting to justify continuing to drive whatever it was they were going to drive anyway.

Really? I think it’s preferable to Hellcat/Warrior/Trojan/etc, but there you go.

Agree those are also all terrible, I'd just never heard rangie before, is that what the Chelsea folk call their tractors, it just ruptured my cringe gland.

The cynic in me sees the big money in EVs shouting good, whilst just a few years ago, the same were shouting diesel good and lying about it.
There is no balanced research, the expense, and as previously stated, supply chain obfuscatory has made it all but meaningless.
The Conglomerates, Multi Nationals and the devolved superrich from them, piss on us, the press tell us its raining* and in our embarrassment we accept it because that way we feel reconciled.

Fuck, i've woke this morning feel cantankerous. Sorry

*stolen from twitter yesterday.

I guess that's another conversation, will current battery technology be superseded any time soon? Are these new Toyota batteries actually coming down the pipe soon? I'm waiting for them to get cheap enough so I can get one and some panels for our house, by that point I might be in the market for a car that I can run off my roof!

Mental, as IME a wet DPF system (adblue or other brand) works better, less likely to fill your sump with diesel leading to severe internal engine wear and the bills that follow.

Dry systems work well if its under decent load and your speed is consistent, but when they start doing a regen in town its a total PITA, drives like a pig, stinks, burns a hole in your firewall (can feel the heat through the bulkhead on most cars), burns tonnes of fuel, puts some of that in the sump and then doesn't actually fully regen, so then does it again 20 minutes later.

Is it that folk have a mental block in having to fill a separate tank with a separate fluid?

Agree those are also all terrible, I'd just never heard rangie before, is that what the Chelsea folk call their tractors, it just ruptured my cringe gland.

No, the people who make these cars part of their personality tend to, as you say, cringe at "Rangie".

Anyway, call them what you like, and what lines up with your view of acceptable names for a vehicle commonly associated with masculinity.

I'm on this team. The latest vehicles definitely produce less local emmisions, but their supply chain is worse than ever (haven't a source, but internet reckoning says so) as there is so much high technology and so many scarse materials.

If your using it for business/commute miles where no other useful choice, and decent miles (20-40k a year) great, its the ones (on my street), who get the latest toyota/lexus/porsche hybrid which is likely £50-90k vehicle, and only do 4k miles a year. Yes local emissions very low, very commendable, but globally, not so great.

My 20+ year old diesel lives again after an engine rebuild, runs as clean as it did when new now despite 300k on it (euro 2 though), don't use it for city as have bikes, legs, trains and a cargo bike. Also has less rust than a 2015 Focus, so win there as well!

Lol u be tetchy today. I wouldn't say a range rover is commonly associated with masculinity at all, nor do I expect such things to have macho sounding names, I think something like Nigel is best

macho sounding names

Like Disco?

My 20+ year old diesel

What is it out of curiosity?

Also on the mk2 Golf chat from the other day.

Found this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volkswagen-Golf-MK2-GTI-16v-G60-engined-Oak-Green-3dr-Low-Miles-/284371649220

Dreamy.

Always loved the big bumper.

This just strikes me as a lot of car for the money.
https://es.wallapop.com/item/land-rover-range-rover-2002-652877545
Or with a dealer warrenty
https://es.wallapop.com/item/land-rover-range-rover-4x4-665882761

just two quick examples.

Still not sure it's wise.

I'm sure @ChasnotRobert but perhaps it's just the image.

Being in a range rover is a pretty wonderful experience tbh, just super comfortable with a great view. If I had endless money and limited consciousness I would probably buy one.

But they are big, heavy, complex cars with a shit load of gadgets and a bad reputation for reliability (even when new). Hence cheap to buy when getting on a bit.

My own experience is limited to being driven around in one when I was doing a bit of business with North London's finest waste disposal magnate.

Yes.

My thinking is, the early ones are basically a bmw an if I were brave enough to own an e61z why not 3.0 rr.

That and second hard cars here are expensive. A xc70 with 200km from 2007 will be around 8000eur. So if I can get a rr for a bit less then cash in pocket. Also a shogun would be around 10000.

It would likely be cheaper long term to get the shogun.

I went out yesterday and someone has knocked off my passenger side wing mirror and damaged the driver's side one, on the new car I've had for a couple of weeks (Toyota Auris, boring dad wagon).

Parts and labour to replace it through Toyota would be £388.

Is it worth trying to claim it through insurance, or would that lose me my no claims (currently 9 years which is the max my previous provider would give)?

It's so fucking annoying. I wish it was at least part of some road rage incident or neighbourhood feud but it's just mindless vandalism.

Pay the 388, no question.
Sucks.

I'd prefer an OEM+

Check out: https://www.instagram.com/basicbus/

The other question is do I want FWD or 4Motion?

4 motion for maximum resale...

You can buy mine for 17k ;) But it is an early rangie that someone stuck the supercharged rangie engine in to.

Worth more money if the engine is returned to standard tho, but not matching numbers standard.

See if a paintless dent removal person can do the door repair and then the mirror.

Bastards. Personally I’d probably just pay the cash as forget about it. But I also always have a high excess.

the early ones are basically a bmw

The engine's a BMW engine. The rest is definitely not BMW. Not the bits that go wrong, anyway.

ha, that's what my brother calls his.

I do love him dearly though.