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Just curious, are you talking about using samples or an actual TR-909? My point was that people tend to hold modern analog drum machines to an unrealistic standard by comparing their direct output to recordings/samples of more famous machines. Even "Clean" samples of the 909 benefit from some coloration/compression depending on how they were originally recorded.
JVBulman
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Not sure that I'm qualified to talk about modern production since I'm totally into the 909/808 sounds, acid, detroit tech, electro etc. I do eq mine for different tracks and occasionally a bit of reverb. I think it makes a big difference if you have the actual boxes and you dial in the parameters of kick. Also worth ducking the bass for the kick to work properly. I do layer mine with an 808 and something from the SP1200 time to time but I just can't allow 'pitiful' as a description of 'machines like the 909'.
The ride is tunable so I'm not sure about a single resonant frequency. I do normally tune and eq mine though.
I bought my 808 nearly 20 years ago from a guy who told me the kick was too big for club tracks at the time. I just smiled and said sure.
If people own them and think they sound pitiful until processed then chime in, otherwise it's just stuff 'a few people realise' without much real experience of these analog machines. If it's opinions sourced from samples I'm sorry to say that won't cut it with me.
I don't think you need these machines to make great music though, just that unless you have one your opinion is going to be a bit of a guess.