That Starmer fella...

I'm a Labour Party Member and delegate

I hope you don't do any canvassing

oh you're a labour fan? name all the members

disillusioned voter from north England, home owner, over 65, has a strong northern accent

valid criticism, yes sir, would you like my wallet for inspection? sure we can get more flags? more statues? yes we'll throw those yobs in jail right away, you're right to vote for the tories btw.

disillusioned working age voter, renter, forced to live in cities due to housing and jobs, no fiscal safety net, sounds like one of those metrosexuals

how about you shut the fuck up you woke piece of crap, who else you going to vote for? the tories???? what choice have you got? i don't care if you were 14 years old, you should have been campaigning, also you're late on your rent.

I love how this thread is now almost an exact copy of the Corbyn thread, just with the sides reversed.

Looking forward to the Burnham thread

I'm waiting for the unlawful discrimination season, that one's going to be a doozy

We want to keep Burnham in Manchester.

Labour saying they have a 5-10% chance of winning the Batley & Spen bye-election. I like their optimism.

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/29/labour-keir-starmer-party-unity?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&__twitter_impression=true

This seems a pretty fair summary of the Starmer predicament. I'm pretty firmly in the "want to give him a chance but disappointed with some decisions" camp, rather than the "didn't really like him so will jump on any excuse to slag off" camp, but the article hits the nerve for me.

Same. Raphael Behr is always great but I think he's been best on summarising the issues with Starmer, which it's hard to disagree with even if you're of the opinion that he should be given a fair crack of the whip (I am and I suspect he is too). The trouble is that in a battle between a cartoon character and someone paralysed by caution, the cartoon character will always win. We should have a proper strategy for dealing with that by this point.

Excellent (and surprising) result in Batley and Spen.

I wonder if the doom and gloom earlier in the week were a ploy to try and get the lazy voters out.

It's a bizarre result and I'm not sure what it shows.

Labour lost over 9,000 votes since 2019, but the Tories lost about 6,000 and Lib Dems' vote share also went down. Much lower turnout is partially to blame for these figures, but what it seems to suggest is the Tories can't count on picking up all of the independent seats and Labour deserters.

8,000 voted for this as well, Britain is fucked:

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i think it may have been a classic british empathy for underdog; she/and labour was harassed while out campaigning.

that group letter by muslim women signalled this a little too.

the shy labour vote!

Pleased that Labour won. Galloway can absolutely get fucked, sick of him stirring up division among communities, wherever he goes it gets ugly.

Galloway can absolutely get fucked

This!

Right in the cat

It was funny when he tried to stand where I live though, a bus and big billboards of his purring face in a bad hat everywhere and no cunt voted for him.

Green party got less votes than Loony

fewer?

Well, he got the same as the Lib Dems and slightly less than the Tories with 5.7% of the vote, and that fucking billboard was up for months afterwards.

Starmer must be feeling the same emotions as Cav now...

Can someone potato-chop Starmer with tiny hands on head celebration pose...

The Green Party didn't run, they had a candidate who it turned out had made homophobic remarks online when he was 19, and didn't field a replacement candidate.

A group called Alliance for Green Socialism stood and got a handful of votes.

Was thinking a bit about Starmer and Labour and how to create a winning coalition of voters. I've rattled on before about education and think this is still a point on which a real Labour point of difference could be made, but recently I've been thinking about younger years childcare and how Labour could build a load of policy around state subsidy of childcare for young families as away to drive equality and take back some of the 'levelling-up' talk from the Tories.

Just checking in, do we still loathe Starmer?