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• #21627
That's fair enough and understandable.
Yep, the Neo is not a bad shout at all. Workflow is a bit finicky compared to the Robot due to needing to pre-heat (the Robot does not require pre-heating at all IMO). I am unsure of your grinder setup, but the pressurised basket may actually be of benefit to you if you don't have a really decent grinder? If you do have a good grinder, the non-pressurised basket should be on your list.
Totally forgot about the Neo actually. If your wife is open to manual espresso then that seems like a great shout on a budget and absolutely is what I'd pick over the ROK.
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• #21628
Buy a Cubika for £50 and see how you get on. Spend £22 on a vst basket, and spend an afternoon taking it apart and descaling the fuck out of it.
I bought my Cubika second hand for £55 in Jan 2015. It's never really missed a beat. I thought the pump had gone at one stage but it just needed a bit of a strip and clean.
Not a popular choice, but it's a well made and simple machine for cheap.
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• #21629
My last machine was essentially free (long story involving a douchebag on eBay) other than the portafilter which was £18. Sadly it suffered water ingress after descaling (ridiculous I know) but there you have it.
I’d just prefer to go manual as there’s less to go wrong.
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• #21630
I have a gaggia mdf and it seems to serve its purpose well.
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• #21631
I personally have no experience of manual machines, but happy to give another up vote for the Gaggia Classic - bought a second hand one which is many years old but in good nick. It is a great machine with a huge amount of spares/mods/repairs that can be bought and made to it, so it makes for a good long term investment. Crucially, it makes good coffee too 🙂
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• #21632
Another thumbs up for the Gaggia Classic here, if a cack-handed idiot like me can maintain it then it must be an easy machine to look after... Like others have said, lots of mods, etc, never misses a beat, pulls great shots... Show your OH the Hoff video where he does espresso on a budget...
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• #21633
Surely not! Six minutes?
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• #21634
The Veloxtermo wall mount machines are rare! - same group as the lever Presidents I think. In the unlikely event I find myself without a landlord one of these days, I'd love a plumbed in, single group President or Urania. They look amazing.
After seeing that, I'm tempted to sketch up a wall-mounted, plumbed in La Pavoni!
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• #21635
Has it arrived yet?
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• #21636
Has it arrived yet
Arrived and drank itself
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• #21637
Bastard nice weather. Must be quiet in the shop.
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• #21638
Not wall mounted, but a grown up Pav with classic, Italian 70’s styling….
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• #21639
Looks great in a cafe or the set of Alien, but would want something a little less chonky in the kitchen!
Maybe if I had a garage with a classic 70's Italian car to go with it though. As in that case I'm sure I'd be spending a lot of time in the garage.
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• #21640
Ha - too true!
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• #21641
They’re funny those, under all that bodywork is a bog standard Europiccola. Looks ace though.
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• #21642
current projects >>>>
Lots of pictures please
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• #21643
https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/365735/#comment16087620
Good price on some Timemore black mirror scales
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• #21644
Just pushed the button on the gaggia classic in midnight blue
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• #21645
You won't be disappointed. Part of me wishes I hadn't bought second hand as the new ones look great, and would have loved a black one!
Any plans to mod?
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• #21646
Europiccola question:
Steam escapes / bubbles from the joint where the grouphead bolts to the boiler when I pull a shot.
It's relatively new (<1yr old), there's no build up of limescale or obvious degradation anywhere.
Do I just need to replace the O-ring?
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• #21647
It’s got 3 years warranty so I’m probably not going to do the spring mod unless the coffee is utter shit.
I’m no connoisseur just a light roast Ethiopian for me
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• #21648
Mine's been doing that too, I ordered a new ring which has disappeared in one of the moving boxes we still haven't unpacked after a year. I'm fairly sure a new O-ring will fix it, but it hasn't bothered me enough to start digging through the 'miscellaneous' boxes.
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• #21649
Likely just the two little bolts holding the group on need tightened a bit. Don't think I've replaced that O-ring yet and mine is just over 3 years old and used daily.
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• #21650
Me and my wife welcomed our newest arrival today and we couldn’t be happier
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Since our last one broke my good lady won’t hear of a second hand machine (I know). But also won’t consider the robot. It would be seen as too much of a faff.
If I win the lottery I’ll get a robot. The flair neo seems reasonable??