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  • Shame. It's my one of my favourite purchases ever. Really does make fantastic espresso and is so much nicer to use than the ROK. It seems like you've been put off by it now anyway - but yes - I really can't recommend it. Sounds like a used Classic could be what you need?

  • Since our last one broke my good lady won’t hear of a second hand machine (I know). But also won’t consider the robot. It would be seen as too much of a faff.

    If I win the lottery I’ll get a robot. The flair neo seems reasonable??

  • That's fair enough and understandable.

    Yep, the Neo is not a bad shout at all. Workflow is a bit finicky compared to the Robot due to needing to pre-heat (the Robot does not require pre-heating at all IMO). I am unsure of your grinder setup, but the pressurised basket may actually be of benefit to you if you don't have a really decent grinder? If you do have a good grinder, the non-pressurised basket should be on your list.

    Totally forgot about the Neo actually. If your wife is open to manual espresso then that seems like a great shout on a budget and absolutely is what I'd pick over the ROK.

  • Buy a Cubika for £50 and see how you get on. Spend £22 on a vst basket, and spend an afternoon taking it apart and descaling the fuck out of it.

    I bought my Cubika second hand for £55 in Jan 2015. It's never really missed a beat. I thought the pump had gone at one stage but it just needed a bit of a strip and clean.

    Not a popular choice, but it's a well made and simple machine for cheap.
    I also understand this is literally the opposite of what you asked for (not second hand, not needing work) but potentially cheap enough to be a consideration.

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