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  • Yeah, that's why I stopped at the XCover 4S because the newer versions got bigger again and lost their hardware buttons. No idea what I'll get next. Manufuckturers still think that everyone wants a fucking tablet and not a phone.

  • i am thinking a pixel 5 is the answer. or oneplus 9 pro, if i want duel sim, but its 200 euro more...

    while missing a lot of what I want, it has a good camera, and is reasonably priced.

  • They're not IP68 though are they? I'm sure I looked at Pixel in the past and dismissed them due to lack of waterproofing. Possibly an older model I'm talking about though.

    EDIT: It is "IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 mins)"

    £500 for a fucking Google phone can do one.

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