• Please see the dozens if not hundreds of pages full of civil discourse and understanding engagement just on this site. Mashton’s point about asynchronous replies is a good one, and I’m as guilty as anyone of rehashing the same point in the same thread; to assume and state that good faith efforts haven’t been made is inaccurate, ignores those same good faith efforts, and is bad faith in itself. But that’s the internet!

    Speaking for myself, and possibly others, at this moment I have lost patience after countless hours reaching across the aisle, hoping to engage and understand instead of proselytise and shame, and having to debunk the same bunk over and over and over again. One party is not discoursing in good faith by not informing themselves and/or refusing to accept contradictory information when it’s presented to them. We keep having the same discussion.

    The mNRA discussion is the only new argument I’ve seen in months, and it’s espoused almost 100% by the same cohort who have been clinging to their same tired other misinformation for months. Is there a single mentally competent adult who, based on civil discussions for over a year now, went from covid denier to covid accepter, to vaccine hesitant to vaccine proponent, and now is again vaccine hesitant due to new scientifically-founded concerns about mNRA? It’s definitely not the majority of people arguing against controls and vaccines.

  • I guess that is the issue with threads that run for long periods of time, like you say you are tired of explaining it but for the new people that join to ask a question they aren't aware of that and lets be honest, no one starts reading a 905page thread from the beginning. I guess the only way around repetition is either stickys, FAQ's or copy pasta replies of where to go and look.

    Is there a single mentally competent adult who, based on civil discussions for over a year now, went from covid denier to covid accepter, to vaccine hesitant to vaccine proponent, and now is again vaccine hesitant due to new scientifically-founded concerns about mNRA?

    Probably only those that got very sick but I do think there is a large gap between those who don't believe in Covid to I am anxious about taking a vaccine with a new technology that was developed and approved in record time and the whole spectrum of beliefs in between

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