Football

Congratulations England!

Defenders were on it again, walker looked happy just bossing people out of the way. Kinda happy to concede the first goal now rather than Sunday, but Italy look great, play like us but better all around.

Schmeichel getting booed every time he touched the ball for stating FACTS was a bit unfair

Sterling asked if it was a penalty: "I went into the box and he touched my leg".

Stirling was good too, not good at the final shit he should be good at, but really good at the stuff just before that.

Classy. Denmark had a great tournament! Wish we could claim Schmeichel as English for the final.

Shame to knock them out, they're probably most people's second team.

Soft penalty, soft free kick that Denmark scored, soft ref all night. Give a shit, though. Happy to be wrong about us. Italy a different prospect, not infallible though.

friendship ended with hygge, now italo disco is my best friend

Top top stuff from Gary Neville at the end.

The penalty was soft, but the abject failure to award one for the trip on Kane somewhat proves the old adage that it all evens out

It substitutes fallable human subjective decision for fallable human subjective decision.

ie it's bullshit.

And the two penalty shouts resulting in one penalty proving it isn't needed

Scruffy method but the end result is golden

That looked like the right call:
https://www.clippituser.tv/c/prmbdg

yeah idgi either - I'm very anti VAR but if you're going to insist having it in the game it's surely there to deal with these exact instances ~shrug~

How? Kane touches ball, defender drops foot in front, Kane is prohibited from continuing his run...?

I think its the worst development in the game, maybe ever.

I hope it doesn't trickle down to the level that I watch and care about because I goto football matches to celebrate my team scoring goals, thats my favourite thing about it.

They've tried it now, at the very top level and it doesn't work. There is no problem with going back to go forward.

Anyway, this is a more general rant. You lads n lassies have your night!

When the final whistle went I thought I heard thunder but I think it was the collective sigh and grown from Scotland Ireland and Wales.

Not as it's phrased in the rules no. It wasn't an obvious mistake from the refs POV.

I'm am also very anti var ,but Denmark didn't lose because of it

It's not the best angle but Kane doesn't touch the ball, the defender does. Kane comes from behind and just naturally runs into him

it's an obvious mistake from all of the angles available to the VAR ref though, no ? is that not what counts ? or do they just take the decision from the ref's angle ? in which case... wtf, makes even less sense

Naaaaah that cant be it, surely. It must mean that it can be an error from the ref but its got to be a very obvious error.

Which is, I imagine, deliberately vague. So, yeeeaaah sure the ref got it wrong but it was a real toughy so we'll let him off this time....sorta thing.

I think it's just one of those cases where it can't be overruled simply because there actually is contact to justify the foul. That makes it not a clear and obvious mistake. If Sterling didn't actually get touched it would be reverted.

I wouldn't have given it because of how soft it is but I see why they went with it. Kind of surprised they didn't ask the ref to see the replay though, at least from the angles we were shown on TV it didn't look obvious that he was touched.

Well this is VARs problem, but it's not obvious he isn't touched... And VAR is shit because this is a point of discussion instead of just what the ref saw/made of it...

And if course contact isn't necessary for foul play

I think they've got VAR pretty good now, nice mostly flowing matches with actual close calls going to technology. Obviously if you're enjoying League 2 it's not going to be everywhere for a while yet, but that's a different kind of game, but sure I'd want a mix of that and top level stuff, there's pros and cons to both but I think it's good, especially at this tournament, for the wanky less guts and glory game.