Formula One ( F1 )

Ha, no worries, I normally expect something to crop up somewhere by now. I've been catching TDF highlights in the evening instead this week

George! Lando!

Really looking forward to the race!

What a shitshow

Can anyone explain why David Coulthard still considers that it's perfectly acceptable for a car on the inside of a corner to force a car on the outside into the gravel on the exit of a corner? The rules are perfectly clear - if there's a car alongside you, you have to give it room. It's not exactly complicated, but he really doesn't seem to understand this fairly basic principle. Gets all moist at wheel-to-wheel racing, but then thinks it's OK to just drive another car off the track on the exit of each and every corner. Square-jawed dumbfuck twat.

What a shitshow

New record. 10 minutes from beginning to end, with the assistance of fast forward. I'm starting to think the highlights show should just show 30 seconds of the start and then the results.

Agreed, glad to see some penalties actually start to come from it though. Don't think it's just Coulthard either though, wouldn't be surprised if Brundle said the same. You'd think F1 drivers would be a league above BTCC drivers in that regard.

You'd think F1 drivers would be a league above BTCC drivers in that regard.

They're not that bad. They don't consider shunting someone from behind to 'make a gap' a legitimate move. BTCC is just dodgems with a bigger budget. But not always more driving ability. Andy Neate, for example.

Hold on... if you're trying to overtake round the outside and the car in front is on the racing line, it's your responsibility to back out of it or be run wide, shirley?

If the overtaking car is in front or even alongside then fair enough, but in this case (assume we're talking about Perez on Norris?) Perez was still a good metre or so behind as they reached the apex.

He can't seriously have expected Lando to lift or hold a tighter line to let him through?

Alonso: "Ah fuck it's Russell... Oh well. Laters!"

At least he felt a little bad about it.

Hold on... if you're trying to overtake round the outside and the car in front is on the racing line, it's your responsibility to back out of it or be run wide, shirley?

Not in my book. If there's a car alongside you, you give them space to stay on the circuit. It's not a question of letting them past - it's a matter of not driving them off the circuit. If you want good racing then it requires mutual respect. Not a 'yield or crash' mentality.

Perez was still a good metre or so behind as they reached the apex.

Strongly disagree. He was alongside Norris. Norris should have given him space to stay on the circuit. I like Norris and admire him as a driver, but in my view that move crossed the line, both literally and metaphorically.

Well each to his own, but pictorial evidence seems to tell a different story. Even Christian Horner Called it fair.

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On top of which, if you watch the whole incident again you can see there actually more room than you might think.

Lando's positioning on that was legit. Perez just needed to lift the gas, but he gambled that Lando would yield and allow him to complete the move on the following left hander.

Perez was wrong.

Australia has been cancelled, not a surprise but sad face...

Think it's pretty futile discussing the right/wrong of running cars off the road here but I'm with Brommers on this. Don't see how it's any different to a car passing on the straight on one side as the gap is slowly closing. Once the car is alongside, pushing the car off the road is a pretty shit thing to do, even if you are just "following your line".

Regardless of whether it's right or wrong, it's deterring drivers from attempting overtakes for fear of being run off the road and instead just waiting for a safe pass using DRS or pit strategy. But then you get the same people complaining that the racing is boring that are also pro-running drivers off the road.

I guess it's another nice thing about motorbike riding. Due to the more severe results of running a rider off track, the riders have a bit more respect for each other when racing side by side. It's a bit shit that running a driver off track is a legitimate defense in F1.

Regardless of which way you're arguing the point, that's a pretty useless picture to choose. On top of the fact that you'd want a series of pictures showing the progression of who's car was where from the braking zone and throughout the corner.

I don't think anyone here is arguing whether or not it's "the done thing" in F1, it has been for years. But it yields dull racing due to drivers deciding to wait for a safer pass as opposed to risk being "legitimately" run off-track.

Not surprised that Horner sees no issue with it given Verstappen took the win here in 2019 by pushing another car off-track.

Even Christian Horner Called it fair.

I feel like he only said that to justify Perez doing the same thing. Twice.

Honda engine is now on top of Mercedes, Toyoharu Tanabe says he’s not surprised 😉
Bloody Honda wherever enter wins!

Remember folks, quali tomorrow and live on 4.

It's going to be an interesting weekend...

Can't remember where I saw/heard it, but Mercedes were reporting that they are bringing upgrades to Silverstone. People have struggled up to now to see where Mercedes spent their tokens on car redesign from W11 to W12, so could these be the ones?

So is this new car a heartfelt attempt to make racing cheaper and closer or just some ‘kids want big wheels and swoopy lines’ bullshit?

Lol the drivers hate it, lots of ‘it’s different’ and ‘as long as it improves the racing’