i think the argument against them is twofolds;
they rattle off road
you cant install racks on all bikes like a carbon road bike
They weight a fucking tonnes.
Like, a pair of Ortieb Classic panniers is 1.9kg, add a rear rack (420g, Tubus Fly), and you now have a good 2.32kg of weight on the rear before you even filled the bag up.
*edited to clarify which Ortlieb model.
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i think the argument against them is twofolds;
they rattle off road
you cant install racks on all bikes like a carbon road bike