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  • This is the place to discuss and share information on the TdF and the performances of riders at the race – especially the leader.

    No one wants to compare times up climbs. Sadly that’s the only (blunt) data that’s available right now, but, I must say, it doesn’t support your position.

    You should probably tune out of a lot of the commentary and reporting from yesterday, too. Reputable sources are including metaphors for insurance purposes.

    I hope I’m speaking for the majority by saying that people want Pog, and other recent performances, to be evidence of a new era of training and talent. I don’t think anyone is trying to disprove the performances; I think the desire is to prove them, rather than just watch them.

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