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  • @amey I disagree the “English can’t cook part”.
    Also last france trip my coffee experience was sub par.

    Side note- these days our breakfast of convenience is so sugar driven (ignoring the trad option of anemic, ethically questionable meat stodge).
    Pret averaged 30g of sugar per serving
    Costa substantially more.
    Waitrose- if you just had a yoghurt would have been ok.
    Breakfast bars are less healthy than a snickers.
    It’s no fucking wonder our obesity crisis is so bad. It’s nothing to do with English breakfasts- it’s all this American shit.

    I’ve been on a train every morning this week at 7am from KC so ratings on a 5* scale:

    Pain Quotidien:
    Like a packet croissant. Average buttery flavour, felt stale.
    Unacceptable- and if our French visitors have the poor fortune of eating that as the first thing in London, I can only apologise on behalf of this country.
    1.5/5

    Sourced market:
    Utterly miserable with no butter flavour or structure. Tasted as if it was made two days ago
    1/5

    Pret:
    Flaky, butter flavour present, not greasy.
    Most forward taste was sugar- and raw not caramelised.
    Structure good, flavor unacceptable.
    2/5

    Waitrose:
    Flaky, fake butter flavor. Structure adequate, not too sweet.
    2/5

    I missed the opening serving of aux pains de papy by 7 minutes this morning. I nearly cried into my Pret croissant.

    The research will continue.

  • Also last france trip my coffee experience was sub par.

    My every trip to France ever, the coffee has been sub-par.

    To the point of being undrinkable bile.

    Re: croissant (pronounced "croissant"), don;t the French have restrictive regulations about how they are produced, like they do with Baguettes?

    Having bread and pastries delivered fresh each morning is so good though.

  • undrinkable bile

    My experience of all tea and coffee. Many people disagree so there is probably some subjectivity involved.

    I wonder if the coffee difference is like American chocolate and their love of butyric acid? Weirdos.

  • Why are you going to france for coffee.
    Italy, euro on the counter espresso in the cup. Knock it back without sitting down and out the door to go get some bread.
    Wish we had that sort of coffee culture over here..

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