• Don't get why rear racks/panniers are so maligned. Some of the mid-pack I see in Ultra races seem to have such overflowing amounts swinging from the saddle/handlebars. I've never tried it, but it often looks odd. Why not go to a rack and Ortliebs and have space to shove in more 7 day croissants? 🤷

  • i think the argument against them is twofolds;

    they rattle off road

    you cant install racks on all bikes like a carbon road bike

  • Or full suspension bikes.

  • i think the argument against them is twofolds;

    They weight a fucking tonnes.

    Like, a pair of Ortieb Classic panniers is 1.9kg, add a rear rack (420g, Tubus Fly), and you now have a good 2.32kg of weight on the rear before you even filled the bag up.

    *edited to clarify which Ortlieb model.

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