Saffron Frameworks Dream Bike

Unless they've tried removing the Hope GXP adaptors from a Hope BB, in which case their attitude is entirely understandable

This.

And get the lairy green hubs!

Here you go: https://wheelsmfg.com/bottom-brackets/threaded-bb/standard-mtb-bottom-bracket-with-steel-bearings-for-24-22mm-cranks-sram-truvativ-black.html

Don't worry about the word "MTB" in there. When I asked them about it last year they told me:

The Mtb cups are actually 16mm deep, while the Road cups are 13mm deep. Generally speaking you can use the Mtb cups in a road bike without issue provided that the threading of your bottom bracket shell is deep enough.

Team fruit salad fade, not that multi-sparkle thing. A mate has a Trek done top to bottom in it and it's.. something.

I have some scribe wheels - they're fucking brilliant, not that expensive and their customer service is second to none.

https://scribecycling.co.uk/collections/carbon-rim-brake/products/aero-wide-38-carbon-wheelset

What’s the point in buying branded wheels that are just Chinese rims for 3x the price? I don’t get it.

QC + customer service / after care + short circuits the faff of having to source rims/hubs/spokes yourself and then build them ?

the hubs are specific to those wheels and well designed, lifetime crash replacement, local warrantly policy, excellent customer service?

Also, I guess chinese rims are like £200 each, high end hubs would be maybe the same again, wheel build £120, spokes £40 so really you're getting the above for c. £200. Doesn't seem like so much I don't think.

Anyhow I really like the wheels, like the company so would like to give them a shout out as a consideration. Good carbon wheels under £900 are good and I'd be hard stretched to recommend anything above them

Thanks for posting, they look like good value. Especially with a lifetime guarentee.

The opportunity to get into specific hub / rim choices are part of the fun with a project like this. If they did rims separately I'd be more tempted but (for now anyway) I'm going to plough on with this idea of green hubs : )

One man's faff is another man's project!

Ha ha! It'll be a mixture of both - something like the last few photoshopped pics I've posted. Haven't figured out the fine details yet.

On the hubs front, I did a bit more googling to see if I could find proper photos of the green Carbon-ti's. Found some by @larsenroad. I think these are the darker green ones... they're still pretty lairy so Krusty is happy.

They're so dainty that I don't think you'll even see them from the side of the bike, whch makes my photoshopping efforts kind of redundant!

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AMAZING! Thanks : )
Will forward that info to Matthew.

They're the ones called "green".
https://r2-bike.com/CARBON-TI-Front-Hub-X-Hub-Road-SP-Front

Very happy with Carbon Ti! Bought another set for my latest build.

Excellent, cheers!

Also reassuring to hear they've worked out so well... it's a great looking bike : )

they look great, the little machining to save grams is inline with the spirit of the build, imo

Yeah I think so : ) Once you've committed to clown brakes, these things suddenly seem more important!

That green is fantastic. I got bling wheels last year but the front had to be a boring black dynamo so I made the rear match - did put some sparkle in the paint at least, though it's only visible when recently washed. Sad!

C-bear?

Good call... never heard of C-Bear before but they get great reviews... and if they're good enough for Lotto Soudal, they're good enough for me
: )

i thought you had asked for options outside of CK price bracket. C-bear is similar, outrageously expensive for what you get

Their bottom brackets never failed on me (I have several) and rate them. Even after years of commute, they still work without any maintenance. Unlike the standard sram gxp bottom brackets which fail within a couple of months usually.

Don’t know where you have seen them, I paid definitely less than 50% of a CK bottom bracket.

Even after years of commute, they still work without any maintenance

Same with my £13 shimano sora though…

The sram gxp i have used have worked for over a year easy. A c-bear one is used for a caad12 lasted about the same.
And I have not said that c-bear bbs were the same price as CK ones.

I think C-Bear is quite a bit cheaper - about £90 atm
https://www.c-bear.com/en/products/bottom-bracket/bsa-ita-sram-gxp

I've heard the Sram ones are good for a few thousand kms but I reckon it's possible to get fit-and-forget BBs for around the £100 mark. There was a ceramic bearings C-Bear somewhere for £160, but ceramic is always expensive.

A brand new ThreadFit is about £190-200 from what I can find online.
You could probably get one secondhand for half that but this is a new-only build because that's basically the deal with buying a Saffron.