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Interesting that people rate Cuprinol over ronseal. I'll have to double check our tins, but I found Cuprinol on our fence panels and shed no better. That said the shed was a lighter colour while the rolseal is black, and both were painting over red cedar. The Cuprinol dark grey is on par I think.

But am I missing a reason as to why fence paint vs thick gloopy oil paint? Is it a cost thing, for large areas?

We've got a far bit of trellis to do, but still not on par with a garden's worth of wood fence panels.

Normally an oil based paint used on exterior wood requires a primer and undercoat to ensure that it doesn't get soaked up by the wood (that makes it look patchy and matt).

Wood fence panel coatings seem to mostly be a combination of stain and varnish (possibly shellac originally). This can be sprayed or painted by brush directly onto the wood and provides some protection with a consistent sheen and consistency of colour.

Cheers. That makes sense as well as making me realise that I've only ever overpainted with outdoor oil based stuff.

I guess the question is; if I want black coloured trellis (a opposed to a lovely shiny glass black finish) would 2 coats of black oil paint do this sufficiently?

I still have some black oil based paint so I guess the best thing is to try on the back of one of the fence panels. Drying time will be a fucker though won't it.

Edit: any experience of Bedec Barn Paint?

@nefarious thanks! I didn't know those tongue tight screws ever existed!

I'm going to have the rad and washing machine in place and likely running for a couple of weeks before I get round to installing the floor so hopefully any issues will arise before then. My plumber pretty good so I'm sure all will be swell. Thanks!

Also, document where everything is under the floor. Measure if you can. If there are problems in future, it’ll be a lot more straightforward if you know where stuff is under the floor.

Cuprinol do testers. Maybe try their Garden Shades black on the back of your trellis?
For clarity, I do not work for Cuprinol but I have found it better than Ronseal. It covers much better.

Forest Green and Silver Copse - one coat. Please disregard the cat claw marks on the green.

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Water butts.

They’re usually set up with a diverter pipe from a down pipe.
Any reason why I can’t put the whole down pipe in?
Catchment area is a flat roof approx 8m2.

I guess it will overflow?

It's amazing how quickly they fill up. You'll have an extra 8m2 worth of rain pissing over your patio very quickly.

8sqm x 50mm of rain (one day of heavy rainfall) = 400 litres = your water butt overflowing

I’ve got a really big butt.

😉

But point taken.

The diverter connector only usually collects the water as it runs down the inside face of the downpipe, the centre is left open so that overflow from the butt goes back through the connector and down the downpipe.

Butt point taken.

Ah.
Didn’t realise that.
That probably isn’t going to work in this case as the butt is a fair distance from the down pipe, I’ll have to extend the filler pipe.
I might have to fit a separate overflow.

It’s actually my back neighbours’ roof - I’m using ‘their’ water with permission.

While on the subject of gardens ...
I want to build a trellis and a horizontal slatted fence - probably of varying widths and frequency of slats.

Any recommends for sawn British hardwood at cheap cheap prices?
I want the end result to not look to clean/designed - but a sort of rustic minimalist look. I was thinking some waney edge stuff from an actual saw mill maybe.

Cheap, cheap??? This is likely impossible at the moment.

😭

Maybe just cheap then.

I have access to proper workshop equipment, so I can re-saw stuff - but my experience of buying is all for making fine joinery and cabinets.
I was imagining something agricultural/traditional.

Wealden Oak or East Bros timber may be able to help.

Know a anyone with an old shed/barn they're getting rid of?
I used boards from such almost 30 years ago when I wanted to clad a new shed in a way to make it look older.

Thanks.
Do you have a species recommendation.
Oak, ash, chestnut, ?

I thought there’d be loads of ash about.

Wood is at premium prices at the moment. Some wood rose in price by 60% last month! Good luck with the hunt.

Something like that might be perfect.

I live in Lewisham though.

Almost as long ago I was helping build stuff on a hippy farm in New Hampshire and we clad one building in wood from a salvaged grain silo. The windows were all random salvage too. It ended up looking mint - rustic Bauhaus.

Jesus.
I never got the wood for finishing my iroko deck but I got a few quotes. I guess they’re all obsolete now.

My builder is providing quotes for work which are valid for 1 month. Last year it was 3 months. Getting materials is proving more difficult every day. Nightmare for him.

Nice, good luck with the current hunt.