• I genuinely love to read the general practice everyone in the North and South has to ensuring they mention they don't support SF... They also don't support any of the other parties, so... how do they keep getting in, no-one ever seems to vote for them.

    Every main party in the North is either corrupt/extreme/ineffective, in the following categories

    Corrupt: Sinn Féin, DUP
    Extreme: Sinn Féin, DUP, TUV, UUP (Garvaghy Road is still fresh in some people's ninds)
    Ineffective (via lack of strong policy): Alliance (unionist with small "u"), SDLP (nationalist with small "n" and link to Republic's FF)

    As much as many dislike Sinn Féin and the many valid reasons for disliking them, they've managed to pull in a slew of voters in ROI and NI, by simply keeping quiet or picking up on the anger of the general populace (who seem totally or willingly ignorant of worrying aspects of said party)

    The solution to all this is going to be as complicated as the run up to 1998, but maybe saved by the lack of cult figures and a growing understanding on both sides that the UK couldn't give a fuck

    And I think any of you with experience of NI understand that media etc still kowtow to Unionist politicians as if they've never had a roll in inciting violence, while their history of similar actions follows every Republican politician til their death. Everyone forgets David Trimble and his part in the facist Vanguard...

  • I agree, SF is very good at playing the long game & pretending they are progressive up north. Down south they are much more left, here, nah. But they do politics well.

    And yep, not going to tell me the DUP is squeaky clean. At least Doug Beattie calls the LCC for what they are, drug dealers.

    Best we can hope for is that there won't be too much bickering and riots and economic damage, Brexit is a shitshow that hits here early. Once GB has to do customs checks it's gonna be "fun".

  • That's my fear... full customs checks... but my hope is still that on a human or realistic level, the general population in NI and ROI will find a way to work together around it. As naive as that may sound, NI and ROI trade has already grown considerably and with no ill effects to either market.

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