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  • You push traffic onto main roads which are then even more gridlocked/busy and that is where the really shitty housing is.

    Questionable on all fronts: beyond a certain point of traffic density those roads are hugely compromised anyway and the whole "pushing traffic" narrative ignores that the volume of traffic as a whole can be reduced (DfT reports have emphasised that the fundamental issues is too much traffic for the road network); lots of shitty housing is actually on estates that are historic LTNs or LTN equivalents.

  • the whole "pushing traffic" narrative ignores that the volume of traffic as a whole can be reduced

    I agree but I think a lot of people don't. They have no desire to reduce the number of car journeys they make, if anything they want to make more. If you stop them rat running then they will clog the main roads more. The people that think they might drive less if the roads were less hostile are probably not the ones complaining.

    lots of shitty housing is actually on estates that are historic LTNs or LTN equivalents

    perhaps forgotten about by the rat runners?

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