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@DethBeard
I have the cheaper, UK market Open Road
https://peterforson.com/products/stetson-open-road-wool-felt-hat-black
It's quite stiff, but does a good job keeping the sun and rain off.
I prefer the up position on my brim, I have a fedora which is in the more classic down position.
(remember folks, fedora-man meme is wearing a trilby)