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Thanks you lot. Tomorrow I'll try the soapy water, the screwdriver and the swearing. If you could all do some extra swearing for me it might help. Around 1pm.
@Ordinata thanks for the pic. On first glance your stem looks near 100mm ish and I need 120-130mm ish, so assuming it's on the shorter side I will pass. Which is a shame because I'd love a Cinelli on the tandem tbh...