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It's also to do with making sure the quill part of the stem can clear the drop part of the bars (if you see what I mean)... you need to twist the clamp around the curve a little earlier than feels sensible (or possible) to make that happen. WD40 is your friend.
And you need to swear a lot. Don't forget that, it's very important.
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Yep 100. Should of said. 😎
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Would reverse pliers not do the job? I find they are usually best for avoiding scratches on bars
.gaz.
Ordinata
Tomalex
@Ndeipi
Thanks you lot. Tomorrow I'll try the soapy water, the screwdriver and the swearing. If you could all do some extra swearing for me it might help. Around 1pm.
@Ordinata thanks for the pic. On first glance your stem looks near 100mm ish and I need 120-130mm ish, so assuming it's on the shorter side I will pass. Which is a shame because I'd love a Cinelli on the tandem tbh...