• I'm certainly not doing anything as extreme as you tend to go in for, N/S Downs Escapade is my dry run of kit before AMR. In theory those shouldn't be Alps cold, but I don't know if I'll manage either if I fail to sleep. I did a test overnighter recently and my down bag entirely filled my seatpack which is far from ideal. Losing the tent for a bivvy will give me back most of a fork leg, and then even if jacket and quilt/half bag is the same pack size as a full bag it can be split across luggage and saves me a jacket shrugs I have no idea what I'm doing, this may go badly.

    At least my test set up the other week rode really well.

  • I had a phd minim 400 in AMR which is typical operating temp of -5, I think I would have been fine with the 300 too but it did get cold at night. I think if you're tired then you tend to feel cold more.

  • Were you tent or bivvy? I'm sort of hoping that because its October this time the ground will have been warmed a bit. Avg temperature is allegedly a few degrees higher compared to Feb, but equally I'm hoping that I'll like doing this stuff and do more of it, which will likely only be colder so not much point buying a load of really warm weather stuff...

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