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  • Has much been discussed of Rosamund Kissi-Debrah's campaigining against the LTN around Hither Green & Catford? Her back story is that her daughter died from severe asthma. At her daughter's very recent inquest traffic pollution has been proved to be the cause of very early death (I think she was around 10 years old).

    I have some friends who know Rosamund well. She stood for Green in the local elections recently, which seemed on the face of it to be counter-intuitive. The main thrust of her critique of LTNs is that they make traffic so bad on the main rounds around them that they penalise those in housing alongside, mainly lower income and disproportionately high BAME population, more than higher income and non-BAME peoples' housing.

    It's true that a lot of traffic pressure used to be released via ratrunning (in that neighbourhood the ratrunning was really out of control, mostly I guess joining Catford south circular with Lewisham A20 and nearby A2 at Blackheath).

    The tl:dr of her argument seemed to be: LTNs disproportionately benefit privileged people, with a direct health / quality-of-life cost to the less privileged.

    I guess Oliver's arguments against automobilism above do key into this, and as he says, LTNs aren't really going to change motor-dependence without other more crucial changes to the current way we prioritise motorism in our planning.

  • We should have discussed this on Sat. Been discussed a lot on local group here (she lives down the road from me).

    Theres more to that than what you have said ^ from her POV.

    She is on a busy road that has a bus route already. When the LTNs were introduced that road saw some displaced traffic but there is nothing but anecdata on that as it was lockdown 1.0 then when we came out of that every cunt was driving their SUV to the shops for some reason (there is data on this how people are driving. more). And she has basically threw her toys out of pram and said LTNs cause traffic.

    I dont agree with her.

    I guess Oliver's arguments against automobilism above do key into this, and as he says, LTNs aren't really going to change motor-dependence without other more crucial changes to the current way we prioritise motorism in our planning.

    I agree with this but we have to start somewhere.

    My road sees a lot of displaced traffic from South Circ when its busy as Google/Waze just sends drivers on my road, whats the solution for that on local level? My councillor cant write to Google and tell them to change their algorithm, nor can he un-freeze fuel duty or increase taxes on driving.

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