Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Both wife and I now have Pfizer booked for Friday (age 36/37).
Keeping the dreams of an overseas holiday this year alive...

Me and my wife (36/37) had tizer on Saturday, yesterday was a bit shit but ok again today.

tizer ... yesterday was a bit shit

Stick to booze.

Ffs

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1394285010413293577?s=19

Seems quite outdoorsie

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57005563

From the article Epidemiologist Dr Lalit Kant says "huge groups of mask-less pilgrims sitting on the river bank singing the glories of the Ganges" created an ideal environment for the virus to spread rapidly. "We already know that chorus singing in churches and temples are known to be super-spreader events."

With incredibly low vaccination rates, lots of countries out here which have been lauded for controlling the virus are on a knife edge. They still rely on vigilance to keep the infection out. Singapore going through similar and HK had a near miss recently when the Indian mutation got spread at a quarantine hotel.

For those 36 and 37, the NHS website is now letting some people book, I just booked in for Thursday, when I wasn't able to this morning.

Ah, yeah, if there are no vaccines you need to be ultra, ultra careful.

I see this play out in no time over here to be honest, we just have to hope the Indian mutation isn't even more transmittable than the Kent one.

Taiwan having some issues. The speed at which positive cases have increased is frightening.

Also impressive is their relative rapid reaction in closing schools, nurseries.

Less than 1% of the population have had a first shot yet.

Got a mate out there and he's been telling me that they've "beaten" it. Haven't spoken to him since this outbreak but I imagine he's not so confident any more

On the topic of beaten it, https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/18/96-of-britons-develop-antibodies-after-one-covid-jab-study-finds?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

If only people who felt safe in their little closed borders would realise that the jab is the real way to beat this.

HK have quite a lot of doses going out of date soon and the debate is now moving to how we get these to poorer countries with vaccine demand as chucking them in the bin really wouldn’t look good.

I got the AZ jab 7 weeks ago now and still have a sore arm. More noticeable in the morning and evening or when doing anything strenuous. Odd.

Same. Just in the muscle, right? And only when using it - like trying to hold my arm straight up or pulling a jumper over my head. Range of movement fine, no bruise or tenderness to the touch. I went to a massage therapist last week and it helped a lot.

I get the flu vaccine in the same muscle most years and it's never done that. I can't work out what it is.

Exactly the same. The only thing I can think of is that the needle seemed a much bigger gauge than the tiny flu one, but then again none of the other people I know that got it have the same soreness. Weird.

Did you get other side effects? I felt pretty horrendous the evening after. Chills/sweats/fatigue.

Huh, I thought it was a smaller needle! Less painful than flu for me at the time, I barely felt it. Yeah it's weird, I'm glad the massage helped a bit, I'll probably go back in a few weeks if it's still bothering me.

Similar other side effects to you but I wouldn't say they were significant/bad. I didn't feel awful.
(Btw there's a vaccine chat thread we could take this)

Ahhh. Last couple of flu shots I got were tiny little pricks by comparison - and no side effects to speak of.

Years ago when I was getting the flu jab (asthma) I used to feel shitty for days, so stopped bothering with it for years. The AZ jab was basically the same thing, but more short lived.

Btw there's a vaccine chat thread we could take this

Ah thanks. I’m terrible for only looking at the forum via the ‘following’ page.

Straw poll of people who've had AZ in the office (about 4 of us), plus friends I know who've had it, seems about 50% have had a longer period of soreness of the arm than expected. Mine felt fine after 24 hours.

I'm still trying to get my head around the green/amber list bullshit. I cannot believe that the gov are happy for people to travel anywhere without mandatory quarantine on return. Have they really forgotten that the strain that kicked off our Autumn wave last year came back with tourists from Spain? We were so slow in recognising the variant then...I have no confidence that we will recognise something coming out of Portugal any faster...

Its the typical UK Gov thing. Travel, but please don't travel. Easier/more popular than banning but they can still blame the proles when they lock the UK down again.

I think it's more likely we'll take it there as things stand.

I had my AZ vaccination a couple of weeks ago with minimal side effects and no sore arm. Weirdly though my arm has just started hurting for some reason.

In fairness, amber countries do need to quarantine at home for 10 days (unless I’m mistaken) and green countries still require pcr test before and after flying home. Hardly free movement

I went to the pub yesterday. It was great.

my arm was sore for a good couple of days... like a hefty bruise