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  • That's a fair question. And not an easy one to answer.

    Deprivation among peace walls and the shitty politics and the fecking Nolan show, honest to god, yeah..

    Be interesting to see if DUP / SF lose more next Stormont election.

    One mate lost her brother to a guy who is now a community worker, he never admitted to it. The other cousins to a guy who is now a politician and isn't too sorry about it either.

    Some people have moved on, mates of mine both lost people. But they are from "different" sides and that I think is all not so much an issue as it was.

    Another local guy did time as a revenge killing for his brother, he got out under the GFA. He thinks it's nearly impossible and they should just fight it out (eek) Another nearly got killed by the Shankill butchers but is not bitter.

    Justice in a post conflict society is incredibly hard. It takes decades if at all and of course none of us live forever. I get that some people just left, it is all so slow...

    But the younglings here just want something else, the place has changed, there are lots of grassroots charities and so who knows?

  • Fair points - well made. Decades? I think much longer.
    I was speaking with friends about this last night and we came up with a Final Solution - euthanise everyone over 40 years old and let the young folk get on with it. Failing that severe proposal - anyone over 40 must leave NI - never to return. A less drastic solution and one which probably wouldn’t work.
    There is no answer - the current focus is grass roots / underprivileged / working class families and trying to get them to avoid paramilitaries - this will never work. Education will be another focus. Nothing works when children are brought up in a family environment promoting hatred.
    It’s a grim outlook but then, it’s a grim place.

  • Please, please, please, don't reference Nazi terminology jokingly or joke about 'euthanising' people. It's beyond abhorrent, no matter how frustrated you are with the situation in NI or how bitter.

  • Ah now, bar anybody over 40 from Stormont and fines for whataboutery should do it? ;)

    Re education, that is something that surprises me: The UK government keeps going on about it, but when my partner was unemployed (try finding a highly specialised job here...) there wasn't even a re-education loan option from the Brew office.

    And the areas with riots, they don't get good direction of resources perse and people that can afford to move out, move out.

    A colleague of mine lived near one, she said the local party cut cross community funding (and not it wasn't the DUP...) it's a mess but I also think the "middle class" (which isn't a huge house but you know...your 3 bed semi in a non fleggy area of NI) can do more.

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