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It’s important to challenge these things and it’s unfortunately just so prevalent in “the bike world”
I’ve been guilty of it in the past as I’m sure most have but flagging it and raising awareness can only help promote inclusivity
BlackMath-
It’s important to challenge these things
Since the 'these things' you were challenging was my original post, here goes;
I have always used the term 'Man-Sized' as interchangeable with the word 'Large'. When used in this context, the term 'Man-Sized', is none gendered.
When I referred to a Jack Hearne tourer for sale as 'Man-Sized', I simply meant that it was a large frame - which at 60cm it is. I think that that meaning would be fairly clear to most users of this forum.
It never crossed my mind to think that women would be excluded from or unable to use this frame. Like M_V, I know several women who could comfortably ride it.
It also never crossed my mind to think that women tall enough to ride this frame are somehow more 'manly' - that is, in fact, a ridiculous thought.
Furthermore, it never crossed my mind to suggest, or imply that a more diminutive man, unable to use this frame because of his height, was somehow less manly than a taller man.
All of these things appear to have happened in your head, not mine. I'm frankly astonished that you have derived such complex and derogatory meaning from something so clear, simple and innocent.
I'm also a little bit put out that by implication you then associate my post with the type of men who personify their bicycles as women, and fantasize about brutally sexualizing them. Again, I would point out that this is something that has happened in your mind, not mine.
Perhaps you should seek help?
Jingle_Jangle
Do agree with this - its this kind of language in the bike world that we all use without much thought - often just clumsy and lazy- but none the less bullshit -I find myself doing it and Im always thankful when someone calls me out on it ... learning