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Most of what you've been saying comes across as "unions are bad and need changing"
On this last few pages, sure, but bear in mind this whole conversation came about because I suggested that Labour being too reliant on any single source of funding leads to bad outcomes for Labour (as we were tied to bad policy and reduce our chances of winning elections) and the unions themselves (through poor leadership, short-sighted decisions, and wasting of members money).
There was quite a bit of denial of this last point and I am a small and petty man, so on a day where Unite had fucked up as badly as they have, I am going to grasp the opportunity to flog that dead horse. I don't expect anyone to change their minds, that's not really what this thread is about, but I do hope I can show those who think there's no problem with the Labour<>Unite alliance that they should at least consider that I might have the tinest bit of a point.
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From the look of the last few pages you don't have a union problem, you have a Mac*luskey problem.
There are many, very convincing arguments to make regarding why reform is required within the British trade union movement, and the relationship that the LP has with it. This goes hand in hand with broader systemic issues within the Labour party around party democracy, funding, operations, acccountability – all of which you've glossed over because you're intent on telling us the man who is widely accepted as a bad Trade Unionist, is a bad Trade Unionist.
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Most of what you've been saying comes across as "unions are bad and need changing", most of your arguments, which are fine if taken in this context, are "I don't like the recent leadership of the Unite union and disagree with some of it's recent decisions". That unite is the biggest union and donor to labour means that some of your argument applies to labour, but reform could easily be someone in charge that's less of a dick, when you seem to think it should be some kind of upheaval of all unions and how they work, which for the most part is helping workers.