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  • I agree with this approach - there must be more mileage in Labour putting the case for a cooperative, more productive way forward.

    The one thing that screams at me from this discussion seems to be that some people treat 'workers' as one group, entirely separate and distinct and with needs entirely opposed to 'employers'. I think this is massively harmful to labour's electoral chances - IMO, lots of people do draw a link between business doing well and their own prosperity.

    Labour have to make a case for why making things better for employees benefits employers too, rather than make out business is some sort of evil thing that abuses workers

  • Labour have to make a case for why making things better for employees benefits employers too

    What if it doesn't though? It's not a zero sum game is it? Take an extreme example like amazon, they won't benefit from their drivers and warehouse staff being unionised will they?

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