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  • Great post. I've been happy to let Starmer try to wrap progressive policies in the flag to see how it'll land. We know how it'll land now. It won't. Retired ex-working class people with their own homes will vote for Tories instead. Why would they vote for a copy when they can vote for the original?

    Starmer was the progressive/soft left/remain candidate. He needs to start dancing with the people who brought him. Labour's new heartlands are not Hartlepool and no amount of flag waving will bring them back. Labour's new heartlands are the cities. Represent us. Stop prevaricating and start talking about the damage this culture war is doing. Stop harking back to a working class that doesn't exist any more. Help the working class which does exist.

  • Labour's new heartlands are the cities. Represent us

    Genuine question as I don't know the answer, are there enough constituencies in this bracket to win a majority?

  • Genuine question as I don't know the answer, are there enough constituencies in this bracket to win a majority?

    Short answer, no. But there's also no majority in failing to appeal to anyone outside that bracket too. I think Labour's decline is terminal and they need to arrest it fast by changing the way the party is run. Bin off the member democracy. Bin off the unions. Bin off the Corbynites. Bin off the flag chat.

    Start talking about meritocracy. Start talking about roads / crime / antisocial behaviour / housing / the damage of Brexit. Openly argue for social justice. Make electoral pacts with the Greens, Lib Dems, SNP. Create a progressive alliance.

    I do appreciate that I'm speaking a bit fast and loose and from frustration but I do think this weekend's results show that a significant change in approach is required. Blairism won't work. Corbynism won't work. And the first attempt at Starmerism hasn't worked.

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